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    I don't think much about revenge nor do I engage in revenge fantasies. If I'm going to do something vindictive, it's going to be in the moment or not at all. For example, during an argument, I might say something really personal and nasty if I feel like I've been attacked in an illegitimate way. So I'll say something really mean, and when I was younger maybe I'd try to destroy something that mattered to the other person. But even doing that much was difficult for me.

    Revenge is an illogical response based upon personal values, so I think it has connections with Introverted Feeling (ISFP or INFP).
    This does not ring true for me at all. And judging by this thread, it seems NJs and IJs are the most likely to engage in acts of revenge, or vengeance fantasies. Perhaps something to do with introverted perception being dominant. Not taking the world as it comes, but subjectively. I don't know.

    It's rare for me to even hold grudges. If I can't get back at someone in that moment, then it's not long before I start to see how it was really my fault.

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    Yes, specifically xxTJ, because Introverted Feeling is either the third or fourth function and less developed, and more likely to be used in a negative way under stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMCE View Post
    I'm not particularly hell-bent for revenge, but I think sometimes it has to be done. You simply cannot let people mess with you and get away with it unscratched. They will come back to haunt you later.
    I agree with this. IMO, the aspect of revenge that is rational punishment for bad behavior is being neglected in most of this thread.

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    The way I see it is that if you kill the person who angered you, you won't have to worry about him/her ever angering you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    The way I see it is that if you kill the person who angered you, you won't have to worry about him/her ever angering you again.
    Who rises in the morning, looks in the mirror and says, "I think I will do something stupid today?" -- James Hollis
    If people never did silly things nothing intelligent would ever get done. -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
    Whaling is illegal in Oklahoma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMCE View Post
    I'm not particularly hell-bent for revenge, but I think sometimes it has to be done. You simply cannot let people mess with you and get away with it unscratched. They will come back to haunt you later.
    I agree with this. IMO, the aspect of revenge that is rational punishment for bad behavior is being neglected in most of this thread.
    Amen.





    OK, So who's actually meted out a little Revenge?

    Obviously from a previous post I have. More than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    [SIZE=3]OK, So who's actually meted out a little Revenge?

    Well, I have.


    And that's all you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Well, I have.


    And that's all you get.
    Thank you for not disappointing me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I'm a firm believer in punishing bad behavior instead of turning the other cheek. I do it for my own (long-term) sake and for the perpetrator's. I also do it because punishment alleviates my feelings of anger (i.e. for revenge).

    However, the will to punish is just one factor that enters into my cost-benefit analysis when deciding how to act/react, and I restrain myself whenever retaliation would be overall counterproductive. I am tolerant of my boss's bad behavior, for instance. But whenever I ignore bad behavior, I have to go release the negative energy in a productive way so I don't end up passing it on to someone undeserving (such as the people I love).

    The controlled and rational practice of punishment with calm certainty seems very TJ to me.
    Incidentially, "turning the other cheek" is a cultural reference that goes unnoticed by those who haven't had it pointed it out to them. You use this phrase in error (like most).

    The biblical reference refers to the interaction between a slave and his master. They were obviously seen as unequals.

    When a slave had done something that the master thought earned punishment, the master would give him a backhand slap. (A punch was for an equal, you see.) Yet, by "turning the other cheek" you aren't oriented to be backhand slapped. The left hand was "unclean" and no one used it.

    Which means:
    a) you get punched, but treated as an equal
    b) you don't get anything, b/c they don't want to treat you as an equal and they can't backhand you b/c you've "turned the other cheek".

    The other references alongside this one are of the same smartass nature.

    Turning the other cheek - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
    C.S. Lewis

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    I think about revenge, but have no follow through. However, if I were pushed far enough and it was easy to carry out, might be inclined to seek it.

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