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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekEvans01 View Post
    Well my apologies for appealing to all of your negative sides, but either I'm just an ENFP with a high IQ, thirst for adventure and conflict, good senses and reflexes, and that is logical to a point, or I'm a hybrid. I don't see how anyone with demonic Se could have reactions as good as I do, and sometimes people ask me if they could punch me in the abdomen to see how I can take it, and when I say yes, I end up blocking it without thinking. Really now, can someone with the lowest Se out of all the types be able to do that?
    The functions don't necessarily translate to absolute abilities. They're more about preferences. What kind of information you prefer to take in. How you see and make sense of the world.

    For example, you said that while you can "use Ti," you usually don't engage it. That would seem to indicate devalued Ti though it emphatically doesn't mean that you're logically stunted.

    Blocking or deflecting blows is basic self-preservation. I feel sorry for people who can't do that. But if you seek out Se-related information over Ne, then maybe you're an Se type after all. It is a matter of what you prefer to engage.

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    That's not how the theory works. You can't change the theory.

    Besides, you're not going to find anyone here that actually believes in the idea of a hybrid type. Those that do would have been laughed out here or been educated long ago by resident members here who are very well versed on the theories.
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    Since when is Se about good reflexes? I mean, maybe it is, but I didn't know that.

    And as has been pointed out, ENFp has Se and Ti in the mental ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    The functions don't necessarily translate to absolute abilities. They're more about preferences. What kind of information you prefer to take in. How you see and make sense of the world.

    For example, you said that while you can "use Ti," you usually don't engage it. That would seem to indicate devalued Ti though it emphatically doesn't mean that you're logically stunted.

    Blocking or deflecting blows is basic self-preservation. I feel sorry for people who can't do that. But if you seek out Se-related information over Ne, then maybe you're an Se type after all. It is a matter of what you prefer to engage.
    Really? If you're right about this, then I had it all wrong. I always thought functions were basically mental abilities. If this is true, then that clears up the functions part, and the traits of ESTP are caused by my 7w8 enneagram. Am I sounding on the right train of mind now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekEvans01 View Post
    Really? If you're right about this, then I had it all wrong. I always thought functions were basically mental abilities. If this is true, then that clears up the functions part, and the traits of ESTP are caused by my 7w8 enneagram. Am I sounding on the right train of mind now?
    Yes. According to me and what I've read and learned, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    Yes. According to me and what I've read and learned, anyway.
    Okay, so maybe I was wrong. I've been studying myers briggs types for a while, but I'm quite new at functions. I'm just glad you cleared it up with me before we got half the site involved in this bullcrap. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekEvans01 View Post
    My Se is just fine I'm observant of the environment snd I have great reflexes, sometimes I find myself putting my hands up in the movies when the woman in black jumps out at me. My Ti I use when I'm not talking to someone, and actually I don't know my socionics, I never really understood socionics. It is usually almost the complete opposite of myers briggs. I don't want this to turn into a big debate, I have a hard time not losing it in debates. You could get us all banned.
    I don't wish to derail the thread, but I'd like to provide a perspective.

    Ep is one attention-state (encompassing both and ), and therefore you can only engage either or at one time, focusing in on information related to one element. You can either see static potential, or you can see static realities; you can't see both at the same time, but you can switch between them at will.

    A lengthy analogy explaining the concept:

    There are two objects. One is directly in front of you, One is directly behind you, you must watch over both of them at the same time without moving from a straight line between the two objects. You can't look at both at once, you can only pay attention to one at a time. Now, let's say one of the objects is many more time interesting than the other object, which might be dull, boring, perhaps even painful to look at or deal with; you will probably gravitate your attention toward the more interesting object, while neglecting the dull object, so while you are keeping guard over the interesting object, the dull object is left to neglect and falls into a state of disrepair. After you've been engrossed with the more interesting object for some time, someone walks up to you to tell you that you didn't watch over the other object and that it is less than adequate. You turn around to look at it and it is, indeed, in poor condition, and that makes you feel ashamed that someone else had to point that out to you. So, you decide to fix it up and try and make it look better, but then you turn back around and then yet again get engrossed by the more interesting object, dooming the dull object to again fall into disrepair until someone else comes and brings it to your attention again. [Lead vs Role]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    I don't wish to derail the thread, but I'd like to provide a perspective.

    Ep is one attention-state (encompassing both and ), and therefore you can only engage either or at one time, focusing in on information related to one element. You can either see static potential, or you can see static realities; you can't see both at the same time, but you can switch between them at will.


    A lengthy analogy explaining the concept:

    There are two objects. One is directly in front of you, One is directly behind you, you must watch over both of them at the same time without moving from a straight line between the two objects. You can't look at both at once, you can only pay attention to one at a time. Now, let's say one of the objects is many more time interesting than the other object, which might be dull, boring, perhaps even painful to look at or deal with; you will probably gravitate your attention toward the more interesting object, while neglecting the dull object, so while you are keeping guard over the interesting object, the dull object is left to neglect and falls into a state of disrepair. After you've been engrossed with the more interesting object for some time, someone walks up to you to tell you that you didn't watch over the other object and that it is less than adequate. You turn around to look at it and it is, indeed, in poor condition, and that makes you feel ashamed that someone else had to point that out to you. So, you decide to fix it up and try and make it look better, but then you turn back around and then yet again get engrossed by the more interesting object, dooming the dull object to again fall into disrepair until someone else comes and brings it to your attention again. [Lead vs Role]
    It's okay, I get it now. Functions have nothing to do with abilities, they're just preferences on how you like to take in information or make decisions and still can be good if ranked low. Arcana already explained it to me. Plus my 7w8 enneagram explains my ESTP traits. You might as well close this thread.

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    X in type code means that the letter is unknown, not that the person is some "hybrid", that doesent exist its just that some people might be harder to type than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekEvans01 View Post
    Ah yes, another individual that thinks that the whole world can be understood easily and that 7 billion people can be categorized into 16 types that don't usually fit some people at all.
    ...but 7 billion people can all be boxed if you up the number to 48, amirite?!

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