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    Default Ne, At Its Inward-turning Worst, Follows Ni Leadership.

    When the ego loses faith in Ne as a positive function, it turns inwards and becomes more Ni-seeming. But it is not the same as Ni which invents nothing from itself, leaving an empty hole where creativity should exist. So the ego turns to external Ni authority to provide the creative, impersonal subjective perceptions it lacks.

    For example, Ne bent inwards turns toward: Ayn Rand, Carl Jung, Ray Kurzweil, Immanuel Kant, and a host of other intellectuals in its quest to fill the emptiness which used to be filled with Ne ideations and creations. (The 'host of intellectuals' doesn't have to contain all Ni-dominants, but they often are in my experience.) These intellectuals provide novel, genius-derived axioms from which the Ti (or other) dominant derives a sense of purpose. (But since this purpose doesn't come from within, it is a false sense of purpose.) These axioms thus form the groundwork for the Ti's entire intellectual life, even becoming conflated with life itself.

    The INFP has a similar inward Ne-bent, but the "heroes" for the INFP are very different. Instead of the likes of Immanuel Kant, the INFP is attracted to the likes of such Romantic authors/thinkers as Schopenhauer, Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, and Goethe.

    Edit: based in personal conversation I had with an INFP, add Hegel to that list of Ni-dom Romantic thinkers.
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    "I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone. And then I'm gonna show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm gonna show them the world. Without you. A world without rules and controls..." @Jaguar
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    Dear Mal12345,

    What can I do to maximize my chances of becoming an INFP's hero? Preferably a reasonably hot INFP.

    Although I've never published a romantic novel or book of philosophy, I've made almost 25,000 posts at INTJforum.

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reckful View Post
    Dear Mal12345,

    What can I do to maximize my chances of becoming an INFP's hero? Preferably a reasonably hot INFP.

    Although I've never published a romantic novel or book of philosophy, I've made almost 25,000 posts at INTJforum.

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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    reckful
    INFP male or female?
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    Female. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reckful View Post
    Female. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
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    ...this is probably a bad time to say that I like Kant.

    Hm.

    This could have some relevance for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glint View Post
    ...this is probably a bad time to say that I like Kant.

    Hm.

    This could have some relevance for me.
    Maybe so, if you're about following Kant and not just liking Kant. I went through my Rand phase and my Kant obsession. I wouldn't say I was a Kant follower per se, I just wanted to make his axioms my own.

    If you're one of the Perceiving types with a bit of OCD, then you're likely seeing the influence of either an inverted auxiliary type or a tertiary.
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    INFPs tend to dislike Hegel, based on my conversations with INFPs on an INFP forum and in PMs. Fellow INFP Kierkegaard gets a lot more attention than he is given outside of INFP circles - much preferred to Hegel. Also Shakespeare is INFP. INFPs like other INFPs for inspiration, basically, and after that, NFs, FPs and NPs.
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