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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    That was my 10,000th post to this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    How does "introverting movement of libido" relate to psychological types?
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    Introversion means a turning inwards of the libido (q.v.), whereby a negative relation of subject to object is expressed. Interest does not move towards the object, but recedes towards the subject. Everyone whose attitude is introverted thinks, feels, and acts in a way that clearly demonstrates that the subject is the chief factor of motivation while the object at most receives only a secondary value. Introversion may possess either a more intellectual or more emotional character, just as it can be characterized by either intuition or sensation.
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    Extraversion means an outward-turning of the libido (q.v.) With this concept I denote a manifest relatedness of subject to object in the sense of a positive movement of subjective interest towards the object. Everyone in the state of extraversion thinks, feels, and acts in relation to the object, and moreover in a direct and clearly observable fashion, so that no doubt can exist about his positive dependence upon the object. In a sense, therefore, extraversion is an outgoing transference of interest from the subject to the object. If it is an intellectual extraversion, the subject thinks himself into the object; if a feeling extraversion, then the subject feels himself into the object.

    If that last post describes what you meant by the term "abstract," it doesn't explain what you mean when Ni abstracts information derived from Te.
    Thinking does its job(defining what something is, to put it shortly) in relation to an external object, then intuition abstracts(removes what the persons sees as irrelevant and leaves what seems relevant according to unconscious factors) from this information brought from Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    mythological/symbolical Si bent to their personalities.
    Si is not mythological or symbolic, Si is aesthetic, Ni on the other hand is. basics, basics..
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
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    Thinking does its job(defining what something is, to put it shortly) in relation to an external object, then intuition abstracts(removes what the persons sees as irrelevant and leaves what seems relevant according to unconscious factors) from this information brought from Te.
    "Introversion means a turning inwards of the libido..." The reason I asked about this is that libido is sexual energy or sex drive. I realize however that's a more Freudian definition, but that's the one that survived, whereas Jung's idea of libido as psychic energy has not survived except among Jungians. And on this forum, we just refer to it as energy, not libido. When in Rome, it's best to do as the Romans do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Si is not mythological or symbolic, Si is aesthetic, Ni on the other hand is. basics, basics..
    I'm not referring to Jung's peculiar identification of mythology as such and such when nobody cares about that, except for you of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    "Introversion means a turning inwards of the libido..." The reason I asked about this is that libido is sexual energy or sex drive. I realize however that's a more Freudian definition, but that's the one that survived, whereas Jung's idea of libido as psychic energy has not survived except among Jungians. And on this forum, we just refer to it as energy, not libido. When in Rome, it's best to do as the Romans do.
    This whole forum is based on jungian ideas, so yea "When in Rome, it's best to do as the Romans do."

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    Abstract sensation would be aesthetic as opposed to sensuous sensation and abstract intuition would be symbolic as opposed to fantastic intuition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    This whole forum is based on jungian ideas, so yea "When in Rome, it's best to do as the Romans do."
    And 99% of the posters here don't use Jung's idiosyncratic terminology, just the functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    And 99% of the posters here don't use Jung's idiosyncratic terminology, just the functions.
    nn tears :---DDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    nn tears :---DDD
    Jung's definition of "libido" is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Jung's definition of "libido" is wrong.
    Wrong according to who? There can be multiple different definitions for words used in different contexts. Your attempts are starting to be so pathetic that its getting boring
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