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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Bullshit.
    Si.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Si


    Se


    Si



    si



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    se



    Si


    Si



    Se



    Si.


    Si..if it exists.... I see as being associated with recognition of sensory patterns. This also, as I understand it, applies to internal senses. Like "gut feelings." The beard statement is a perceived pattern.


    Side note: Why do people have such an issue with multiple choice? Pet peeve of mine whenever someone asks a question with only a few clearly defined answers, and then they put in their own answers. That's not really answering the question, it's dodging it.
    You got 50%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Which of the following represent Se and which represent Si?

    1. I like to imagine shapes of things in clouds.
    2. How should I wear my hair today?
    3. I often find myself battling my inner demons.
    4. People who have beards are hiding something.
    5. The people next door have no common sense.
    6. You're such an angel!
    7. I have unusual feelings that I can only express
    through the world around me.
    8. I enjoy looking for the man in the moon.
    9. There is much beauty in ugliness.
    10. I had a feeling something bad was going to happen.

    I'll play along, take my stab in the dark [without looking at the previous attempt[s]

    1. I like to imagine shapes of things in clouds.

    Se...because it has to do with physical experience in the outside world.

    2. How should I wear my hair today?

    Se, because Se dominants usually are concerned, at least to some degree, about physical appearance. Se is my weakest, inferior, function and I a concerned about my physical appearance. I like to look good and I won't even deny it

    3. I often find myself battling my inner demons.

    Si, because a lot of inner demons come through the "little" stuff that inwardly nags at people everyday and because they're inner demons, not outer ones.

    4. People who have beards are hiding something.

    Probably Si. I have no real good reason, other than I have heard a lot of ISTJs make similar statements [not about beards, but about shifty eyes or bandanas or tattoos or low brow bones, those types of things.]

    5. The people next door have no common sense.

    Si? Maybe the people next door are Se and they've been hang gliding off the water tower or maybe they don't cut their grass on a regular schedule or maybe they keep racing their lawn mowers in the middle of the night.

    6. You're such an angel!

    Si? Sounds like something my coworkers would say.

    7. I have unusual feelings that I can only express
    through the world around me.

    Se, just before he/she hops on a motorcycle and goes off to experience the "world" in their own way.

    8. I enjoy looking for the man in the moon.

    Si? Haha...I'm guessing. Seriously, I can't believe anyone would look for the man in the moon.

    9. There is much beauty in ugliness.

    Se, how else could an ESTP pull an old wrecked car out of the salvage yard and remake it into a work of automotive art?

    10. I had a feeling something bad was going to happen.

    Si, because I work with lots of Si-dominants and they say that all of the time.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Si.
    Thank you for illustrating you still don't know what Si is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Which of the following represent Se and which represent Si?

    1. I like to imagine shapes of things in clouds.
    Could be said by any human being.

    2. How should I wear my hair today?
    Could be said by any human being.

    3. I often find myself battling my inner demons.
    Could be said by any human being.

    4. People who have beards are hiding something.
    Could be said by any human being.

    5. The people next door have no common sense.
    Could be said by any human being.

    6. You're such an angel!
    Metaphor. Could be said by any human being.

    7. I have unusual feelings that I can only express through the world around me.
    Could be said by any human being.

    8. I enjoy looking for the man in the moon.
    Could be said by any human being.

    9. There is much beauty in ugliness.
    Could be said by any human being.

    10. I had a feeling something bad was going to happen.
    Could be said by any human being.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post

    I'm looking at Si and Se purely, and then applying them to the ten statements.
    No, you're not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I would treat them both as Dominant by default.
    When any human being makes a comment, you have no idea if it's coming from conscious thought, unconscious reaction, a mixture of unconscious and conscious elements, the parroting of another person's thoughts they have adopted for their own use, something a person has learned, or any other possibility I haven't mentioned. For someone to think they know what is purely derived from conscious thought, alone, then subsequently assigning Si and Se to it, and even worse, placing it in the dominant position which automatically assumes everything coming out of someone's mouth is 100% conscious, renders the understanding of the human psyche at about the same level of a 2-year-old child's understanding of a random Shakespearean sonnet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Thank you for illustrating you still don't know what Si is.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Metaphor. Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    Could be said by any human being.



    No, you're not.



    When any human being makes a comment, you have no idea if it's coming from conscious thought, unconscious reaction, a mixture of unconscious and conscious elements, the parroting of another person's thoughts they have adopted for their own use, something a person has learned, or any other possibility I haven't mentioned. For someone to think they know what is purely derived from conscious thought, alone, then subsequently assigning Si and Se to it, and even worse, placing it in the dominant position which automatically assumes everything coming out of someone's mouth is 100% conscious, renders the understanding of the human psyche at about the same level of a 2-year-old child's understanding of a random Shakespearean sonnet.
    TRANSLATION: @Jaguar has no clue as to the difference between pure and applied typology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ene View Post
    I'll play along, take my stab in the dark [without looking at the previous attempt[s]

    1. I like to imagine shapes of things in clouds.

    Se...because it has to do with physical experience in the outside world.

    2. How should I wear my hair today?

    Se, because Se dominants usually are concerned, at least to some degree, about physical appearance. Se is my weakest, inferior, function and I a concerned about my physical appearance. I like to look good and I won't even deny it

    3. I often find myself battling my inner demons.

    Si, because a lot of inner demons come through the "little" stuff that inwardly nags at people everyday and because they're inner demons, not outer ones.

    4. People who have beards are hiding something.

    Probably Si. I have no real good reason, other than I have heard a lot of ISTJs make similar statements [not about beards, but about shifty eyes or bandanas or tattoos or low brow bones, those types of things.]

    5. The people next door have no common sense.

    Si? Maybe the people next door are Se and they've been hang gliding off the water tower or maybe they don't cut their grass on a regular schedule or maybe they keep racing their lawn mowers in the middle of the night.

    6. You're such an angel!

    Si? Sounds like something my coworkers would say.

    7. I have unusual feelings that I can only express
    through the world around me.

    Se, just before he/she hops on a motorcycle and goes off to experience the "world" in their own way.

    8. I enjoy looking for the man in the moon.

    Si? Haha...I'm guessing. Seriously, I can't believe anyone would look for the man in the moon.

    9. There is much beauty in ugliness.

    Se, how else could an ESTP pull an old wrecked car out of the salvage yard and remake it into a work of automotive art?

    10. I had a feeling something bad was going to happen.

    Si, because I work with lots of Si-dominants and they say that all of the time.
    You got 90% right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    You got 90% right!
    Wow, cool! Of course, you know I'm wondering which one I missed. Tell me via PM if you like. I'd love to know. I have an idea but it could be any one of three that I thought were difficult.
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    I don't get it. Were these statements uttered by people of these types? Or what?

    Some of them seem to have more to do with the intuiting function, others with the feeling function. Some of them seem to be basic human utterances, non-type specific. Consequently I wouldn't attempt to categorize these statements according to a sensing function with any degree of certainty.

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    Actually, I think they do have a strong basis in sensing for the most part.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

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