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    Why INFPs & INTPs Struggle to Know Their Personality Type

    I found this article interesting, especially the assertion that these types are prone to focusing on their inferior functions, thereby delaying the development of their auxiliaries.

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    That book actually looks interesting.
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    INFPs, for instance, may regularly indulge their inferior function, Extraverted Thinking (Te), when focusing their energies on being responsible, organized, or dutiful. They may flit from one task to the next, rarely taking time to relax, perceive, or create (Ne or Se). I know numerous IFP who, even well into their twenties, spend little time engaging their auxiliary function, functioning more like busybodies (This may explain why some INFPs test as Enneagram Sixes)
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    INFPs, for instance, may regularly indulge their inferior function, Extraverted Thinking (Te), when focusing their energies on being responsible, organized, or dutiful. They may flit from one task to the next, rarely taking time to relax, perceive, or create (Ne or Se). I know numerous IFP who, even well into their twenties, spend little time engaging their auxiliary function, functioning more like busybodies (This may explain why some INFPs test as Enneagram Sixes).
    These are either e9s (who get caught up in staying busy to avoid negative feelings or dealing with anything "confrontational" in the psychology, aka "psychological laziness") or he's mistyped a boatload of ISFJs.

    I'm not a fan of this author. He has a poor grasp of INFPs, as shown repeatedly in his articles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    These are either e9s (who get caught up in staying busy to avoid negative feelings or dealing with anything "confrontational" in the psychology, aka "psychological laziness") or he's mistyped a boatload of ISFJs.
    Why is E9 the only plausible explanation for an INFP developing Te? Why wouldn't it be a response to shame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opalescence View Post
    Why is E9 the only plausible explanation for an INFP developing Te? Why wouldn't it be a response to shame?
    That's not what I am referring to. It's the "flitting from task to task" and being "busybodies" statements that I am referring to. That combine with the e6 association is much more likely an ISFJ.

    That is also not Te development, or not in a healthy way. It's a way of avoiding dealing with other things that are unpleasant.

    Inferior Te, according to Jung, is projecting negative judgments about yourself onto the object, as if they object is judging you negatively. Te is very much associated with impersonal measures used to determine what is a goal, which is why it clashes with Fi, which uses an understanding of the human condition to determine what is important.

    This is more of an inferiority complex, then, which all INFPs tend to exhibit in some regard (no matter their enneatype). The extreme response to this is a rejection of norms, because the individual is convinced that they cannot measure up & that these norms put them in a negative light. When this is not extreme, the individual rightly sees that many social norms are shallow & not really meeting innate human needs (which is the focus of Fi - to define what is fundamentally most valuable to the human experience). The norms most often rejected relate to those impersonal measures - stuff like money & power. This is why you don't see a lot of IxFPs pursuing business.

    Inferior Te in everyday ways may be an e9 using tasks to ignore feelings (sounds more tertiary Si stress relief though). It may mean an e4 becoming excessively critical of others, especially in things like taste or morals. But more often it's a problem with logistics (knowing what is needed for human happiness, but not sure the practical steps) and resisting anything which heavily relies on impersonal measures to motivate (not good with task work where money is the main motivation, as opposed to creative expression or altruism, more common motivators for IxFPs).
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