especially when someone feels victimized or burdened by the actual experience. to at the same time ask such a person to take responsibility for their internalized viewpoints and the baggage of that is sometimes too much if one really wants to be constructive (sometimes rooted in a feeling of being owed something). this point is exactly where both sides of this discussion, to me, are arriving at. at some point, the personal does need to come first, and the effort to hold that in focus is helpful for kind of getting to the root of the problem. environments in which people feel like they are afraid to speak bc they know they have internalized shit that isn't perfect don't really help us get to the core conflict that we could work on most directly (when the deepest, most liberated action starts with the self). if the people don't come first, we're just dealing with like iteration 87 and only dealing with splinters.
at the same time, depending on who shows up, the needs of the most immediate situation do change. and you know, when someone is bringing real baggage with them and it's not heard, and there are some major empathy fails, and no one is inquiring for some of those whose viewpoints and challenging situations were part of it too, there is much unresolved. perhaps there should be another thread for that, and for the challenges of dealing with mental illness at home and in being supportive of the larger advocacy strategies that could improve the situation for many throughout our society. i don't know where you're coming from, but maybe you could share some of your actual experience or concerns more directly from where you're actually at. to me, you have helped facilitate, bc for what it's worth, you seem to bring additional focus on more indirect concerns and health of spaces in a way that vibes with Fe somewhat, even if whom you're trying to protect in this situation is different/starts in a different place. however, i don't entirely follow your process, so i am really guessing as to what you need from this, and for what kind of positive change you are trying to contribute to/facilitate. i know for me, sometimes i definitely can benefit from having help being led into a path of experience that can improve my empathy with both real and abstracted characterizations of experience (why infps kind of own the novel ).