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    Adam Grant's blog post is the kind of poorly-informed, straw-manny MBTI "debunking" that turns up with disappointing regularity, and often in sources that ought to have higher standards.

    Last week's "debunking" by Joseph Stromberg at the Vox website — which quotes Adam Grant and makes a lot of the same points — is pretty thoroughly rebutted (if I do say so myself) in this post and the post that follows it.

    Anyone interested in the "official response" to Grant from the MBTI folks can find it here — although I'd note that there's actually considerably more foolishness in Grant's post than their response covers. And here's a harsher (and well deserved) smackdown: Why Adam Grant's Critique of the MBTI Is Useless.

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    How is comparing something that actually somewhat accurately describes people even compare to palm reading and horoscopes? The guy who wrote the article and the "personality psychologist" probably never got much into the functions or Jung's work at all. I could understand coming to this conclusion by only reading Keirsey.

    Also, the spoiler is spelled wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reckful View Post
    Anyone interested in the "official response" to Grant from the MBTI folks.[...]
    Posting a response from the "MBTI folks" is like posting a response from Merck, concerning one of their drugs on the market. Both will make comments to maximize and protect profits.

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    I guess the main victims are the public, when the MBTI anarchists and establishment forces start sniping each other?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Posting a response from the "MBTI folks" is like posting a response from Merck, concerning one of their drugs on the market. Both will make comments to maximize and protect profits.
    Well, of course; but the arguments still have be examined on their merits.

    Just because someone is a proponent for a particular view or has their interests entangled doesn't mean they're not correct on at least some items. But we do have to be consciously aware of potential bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I guess the main victims are the public, when the MBTI anarchists and establishment forces start sniping each other?

    Well, of course; but the arguments still have be examined on their merits.

    Just because someone is a proponent for a particular view or has their interests entangled doesn't mean they're not correct on at least some items. But we do have to be consciously aware of potential bias.
    The important thing to preserve is freedom of speech. So we tolerate believers and sceptics.

    Of course sometimes believers are offended by sceptics, and sometimes sceptics are offended by believers, but this is the price we pay for free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    this is the price we pay for free speech.
    If we have to pay a price, it isn't free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reckful View Post
    If we have to pay a price, it isn't free.
    Freedom doesn't come cheap.

    Freedom requires self control which takes about 22 years to achieve.

    Then freedom requires the limitation of power.

    The fantasy of unearned freedom is the fantasy of those who are yet to learn self control.

    And the fantasy of unearned freedom is the fantasy of those who want unlimited power over others.

    Unearned freedom is the fantasy of the adolescent and garners no respect.

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    Here is the response by CPP to Adam's post mentioned in the article

    Why the Myers-Briggs Assessment is Meaningful to Millions | CPP Blog

    Also the following is rather informative

    http://typeinsights.com/MBTI_Critiqu...er_Pearman.pdf

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