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    except for a few Ne's who might think of new stuff while they're writing
    Ok, either I'm completely mistyped, or your assertion is wrong. Ni is perfectly capable of providing new insights that might result in the adaptation of (parts of) the argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    Ok, either I'm completely mistyped, or your assertion is wrong. Ni is perfectly capable of providing new insights that might result in the adaptation of (parts of) the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    Ok, either I'm completely mistyped, or your assertion is wrong. Ni is perfectly capable of providing new insights that might result in the adaptation of (parts of) the argument.
    Sounds more like Ne.

    Ni is that ability to have the conclusion just come to you. Then you pick it apart. If you're only making minor changes, that's probably your judging (T/F) function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe View Post
    Everyone who writes up something here has already come to a conclusion before they write it (except for a few Ne's who might think of new stuff while they're writing). It is obvious that BW made his conclusion long before (months?) he wrote is 'papers' here on this forum.
    Yeah, this is obvious.

    What is also obvious in my opinion is that, anybody who submits an idea/conclusion in a forum for discussion, can take different approaches to the discussion that follows:
    1) Examine the input they receive, evaluate it, if it makes sense see whether it fits or not in their rationale, and, if it doesn't fit, they re-examine the corner stones of their argument and the basic principles in which they based it.
    2) Examine the input they receive, evaluate if it reinforces or not the conclusion they submitted, if it doesn't but does make sense, they try to alter the construction in ways to incorporate it or refute it, without touching their original conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    An observation: BW reminds me of athenian200, they are both excessively dry in their writing. Both claim to be Ti users and both have also been put into the Te camp...but...where is the Ne and the Ni?
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    1. Te cuts through bullshit like a knife through butter.
    2. if BW were to ever use Te, he would start by breaking up his page long paragraphs into actual POINTS
    3. BW is an INTP with underdeveloped Ne, Te... IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    1. Te cuts through bullshit like a knife through butter.
    2. if BW were to ever use Te, he would start by breaking up his page long paragraphs into actual POINTS
    3. BW is an INTP with underdeveloped Ne, Te... IMHO
    This could have been a Te-like argument (it is not, actually, but resembles):
    You start with a conclusion (1).
    Based on this conclusion, you construct an argument (2).

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    You guys are making too much of this whole, "stating the conclusion first" thing. In certain academic settings it is convention to state your conclusion first, and then explain how you arrived at that conclusion. I know this is standard in mathematics, and I believe it's common in philosophy too (which we all know BW studies a lot). The phenomenon of stating the conclusion first has more to do with education than type.
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    yeah the whole "coming to the conclusion before you write" thing seems completely irrelevant to me.

    basically Te and Ti have a lot of overlap, but Te focuses on relevant understanding and Ti focuses on full understanding (but not necessarily relevant). i know i already said this, but it's just so much more simple to think about it this way...

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    The conclusion thing is not so much how the supposed INTJ writes, but how the supposed INTJ thinks.

    There is not much backtracking or reanalysis. The conclusion remains, no matter how misguided it is.

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