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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Well, there's your answer, OP
    Hate to break it to you but it doesn't matter what I say. I can say anything and girls will still rationalize that I'm a good guy somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    Hate to break it to you but it doesn't matter what I say. I can say anything and girls will still rationalize that I'm a good guy somehow.


    That's not breaking anything to me.

    You could even see Amar doing it above.

    I just think it's fucking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post


    That's not breaking anything to me.

    You could even see Amar doing it above.

    I just think it's fucking ridiculous.
    Amar might just know something you two don't.

    But then Amar isn't about to waste her breath or energy trying to convince either one of you considering the tendency of both of you to always *know* you're right anyways.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Amar might just know something you two don't.
    I'm willing to listen.

    I doubt it will override what I'm saying, but I will listen.

    But then Amar isn't about to waste her breath or energy trying to convince either one of you considering the tendency of both of you to always *know* you're right anyways.
    Well, Amar, let's be real: at least with me, it usually *actually* is the case.

    Please leave me out of this next time.
    Oh, I'd wanted to say something about it before.

    Some beings seem like assholes, but in reality aren't.

    Others seem like assholes, and really are just assholes.

    ISTPs tend to fit in the latter category, and by a large margin.

    I know a few ok ones, but they're usually just shitty, amoral people.

    Hell, even the "good" ones I know have very flimsy and questionable integrity.

    *something about gammas thinking deltas are too forgiving of some people*

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    Man this thread turned sour quickly.

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    haha, thank you guys I'll answer you all later with some comments/questions.
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    P.S hung out with him before class yesterday and he's really better at kissing than talking...so0o0o0o
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    Quote Originally Posted by labyrinth_perhaps View Post
    P.S hung out with him before class yesterday and he's really better at kissing than talking...so0o0o0o
    lol I'm glad our advice came in handy
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    Quote Originally Posted by labyrinth_perhaps View Post
    P.S hung out with him before class yesterday and he's really better at kissing than talking...so0o0o0o
    That's SPs for you. (kidding)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    It seems to happen often when the ENFPs (females, for the most part) are in their late teens and early 20s (and maybe extending into their mid 20s). ENFPs tend to like the withdrawn, emotionally inert quality of ITs, and ISTPs definitely fit that bill. They've also got the "bad ass" thing you mentioned going (due to Se), and they are Ps, and so don't take life too seriously, and are kinda always down to fuck around. And these qualities tend to appeal to girls around that age range (let's call these the "bad boy" years). Eventually, tho, most ENFPs seem to kind of outgrow ISTPs. While ISTPs' "Peter Pan" quality -- the perpetual boy, who will never grow up -- is appealing and fun for younger ENFPs, as ENFPs get older, start having to deal with the real world (i.e., adult life), and start developing their inferior functions (Si and Te), the perpetual boy qualities start seeming less attractive, and more irresponsible, childish, and just unsuited to a mature, adult life, and especially to the ENFP's subconscious desire for stability and structure (SiTe). At this point, ENFPs will usually switch over to dating ITJs, who tend to better provide that stability and structure, and also share the FiTe judging axis, which allows for a certain kind of emotional depth (Fi) in the two partners' connection that seems to be lacking in the ENFP-ISTP relationship (ISTPs don't really use Fi -- it's their 8th and most neglected function -- and most NFPs, after enough time, find this lack of Fi connection troubling, like there's something missing there, and something that matters to them, some lack of deep, authentic emotional connection [to be fair, though, the cost of that deep, authentic Fi-based emotional connection with ITJs is that the relationship will tend to be more emotionally volatile, as each party will have a tendency towards selfishness and wanting things their own way {Fe simply tends to be more pragmatic in this regard (but learning to compromise is possible, and is a sign of maturity, for Fi users [and ISTPs aren't exactly the best Fe users in the world, either, so not only will the Fi connection be lacking, but their Fe might largely suck as well)}]).

    My sources for this info are having dated a lot of ENFPs who have this very specific and oddly familiar dating history (and similar feelings about it), as well knowing other ENFPs on here whose relationship histories also share a very similar pattern.

    You're at the age where dating an ISTP makes total sense, so I certainly wouldn't dissuade you from it. Pretty much every ENFP I know who has done so, around your age, enjoyed the experience, and, because of it, came to realize that it's not really what they're looking for in the long run. And that's an important thing to learn. And something best learned by experiencing it.
    Yeah I think I want to experience it, he's a really nice kid. He tries to lure me in; by acting very "bad". He thinks I don't see right through it. I don't know if he is just trying to relate with me because I've done a lot of "bad" things for my age, or if he's just trying to impress me. He knows I hate bonding over substance abuse, because it doesn't take a special snowflake to do drugs. Yet he continues to talk about all of these crazy/wild experiences he's had. (insert yolo here) and I KNOW he's heard stories about me since, he always brings them up. I just roll my eyes and try to talk about cute baby animals, because damn cute baby animals are so cute. He likes to talk about silly things too, and I usually start talking about silly things to merge comfortably into the more serious topics I want too talk about it. I can't stand small talk, unless were joking or being goofy. I was straight up with him about small talk. Because I know I can get very annoying with how brash I am. I think I'm trying to scare him away a little bit, because like you said there is something missing. He just talks about how much he can't stand other people, (people we know known public figures, etc) which I don't mind. idk, he's just very realistic...but not realistic? I don't know if that made sense at all.

    But, kudos to him he keeps on messaging me (broke my phone running to look at fish at a pet store...)and we had a cute lil kiss and he's great at kissing. I've only kissed 3 people, so I was glad I had someone to guide me. (late bloomer on the sexual ends of things...) He does have a HORRIBLE reputation. but girls go INSANE over him, apparently. Said his friends... I don't know I just feel mundanely awkward around him sometimes..and I hate feeling awkward. I guess I don't care really what happens. I've been fooled by looks before, and that was the biggest punch to my gut ever. BUT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE HE IS SO NICE TO ME. AND I ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING LONELY. I AM SO ANNOYING.

    I also really dislike that he tries to make me feel like I'm getting the royal treatment because he's nice to me. and I use to give into guys sooo easily, (sorta) so it kinda feels good to deny someone a lil bit, but he's so cute....

    I feel like lizzie maguire and I need to stop.
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