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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsists View Post
    I think this relates more to Fi. As I understand it Fe users are more self-effacing than personally expressive.
    Yeah Fe is more about the other person... adapting to the other... Fi is more about the self...

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    to give everyone and update:

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    I think I got most of it...kinda...so thanks everyone

    ps: BTW SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Yeah Fe is more about the other person... adapting to the other... Fi is more about the self...
    I sense a disturbance in the force..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    I sense a disturbance in the force..
    No problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    Oh, now I see, emotions are not feelings, but what are feelings exactally then?
    Well, Feelings in terms of the MBTI and Jung are essentially "values." We learn to recognize our values in part by how we respond emotionally, sure, and so there might be a partial correlation there, but they're not equivalent. Just like Thinking says something is "correct or not correct" by holding a certain system of logic in place, Feeling does the same thing with a system of personal values and ethics; people will evalute behavior and decisions in terms of that internally consistent (hopefully) matrix of personal values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    I've always related more to Fi, but I also have a hard time holding back my feelings(Fe), and I do care how I come off to other people (again, Fe)
    Those things arent Fe.. or Fi or anything related to typology. Both Fi and Fe users can be temperamental akd care about how they look to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Well, Feelings in terms of the MBTI and Jung are essentially "values." We learn to recognize our values in part by how we respond emotionally, sure, and so there might be a partial correlation there, but they're not equivalent. Just like Thinking says something is "correct or not correct" by holding a certain system of logic in place, Feeling does the same thing with a system of personal values and ethics; people will evalute behavior and decisions in terms of that internally consistent (hopefully) matrix of personal values.
    English word "values" refers to ethical values, which F is not. F is a judgemnt about what value something has to you and these value judgments can lead to emotional reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Those things arent Fe.. or Fi or anything related to typology. Both Fi and Fe users can be temperamental akd care about how they look to others.
    Yes that may be true... But I guess when we don"t want to take others' preferences and concerns into consideration, we are switching to Fi...and when we do want to do that, we switch to Fe...

    By default, I am inclined to take other people into consideration when making decisions for myself...It takes others to have acted in a quite inconsiderate and selfish way to compel me to switch to Fi, thereby allowing me to reign in the Fe reflex...(which means I've reverted to my shadow)

    So I guess a Fi-dom's default course of action is not to take others' concerns into consideration in their decision-making process until such time that they consider the other person an important element in their personal life... At those times I believe they are using their shadow Fe to feel connected...

    So an IxFP, for instance, I guess is acting thru his/her ExFJ shadow when they allow other people's feedback to affect themselves...which I guess happens for people that they care about and consider themselves to be emotionally connected with or dependent on...i.e. people whom they made themselves vulnerable for...

    The difference in regards to switching between Fi and Fe should be miniscule for F-inferior people I guess though...

    Do you for instance may become very chatty among people (whose feedback, admiration etc) you care about by switching to your shadow Te...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Yes that may be true... But I guess when we don"t want to take others' preferences and concerns into consideration, we are switching to Fi...and when we do want to do that, we switch to Fe...

    By default, I am inclined to take other people into consideration when making decisions for myself...It takes others to have acted in a quite inconsiderate and selfish way to compel me to switch to Fi, thereby allowing me to reign in the Fe reflex...(which means I've reverted to my shadow)

    So I guess a Fi-dom's default course of action is not to take others' concerns into consideration in their decision-making process until such time that they consider the other person an important element in their personal life... At those times I believe they are using their shadow Fe to feel connected...

    So an IxFP, for instance, I guess is acting thru his/her ExFJ shadow when they allow other people's feedback to affect themselves...which I guess happens for people that they care about and consider themselves to be emotionally connected with or dependent on...i.e. people whom they made themselves vulnerable for...

    The difference in regards to switching between Fi and Fe should be miniscule for F-inferior people I guess though...

    Do you for instance may become very chatty among people (whose feedback, admiration etc) you care about by switching to your shadow Te...?
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