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    Default Fi doms and Sensitivity

    I don't consider myself to be easily hurt. I can usually just write potentially hurtful things people say off as their own problem or not very important, and don't get too hung up. As a person who uses Fi, I've often thought Fe users were more easily offended then Fi users (putting more weight into external feelings, etc.)

    Why then are INFPs and ISFPs stereotypically so sensitive? I'm only a function flip away from being INFP. What's the big difference? What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    I don't consider myself to be easily hurt. I can usually just write potentially hurtful things people say off as their own problem or not very important, and don't get too hung up. As a person who uses Fi, I've often thought Fe users were more easily offended then Fi users (putting more weight into external feelings, etc.)

    Why then are INFPs and ISFPs stereotypically so sensitive? I'm only a function flip away from being INFP. What's the big difference? What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
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    Ahh. Yep. Thought that actually. Most are 4, yes?

    Ok. /thread.

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    I didn't mean to send only '7' haha...one second...

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    Okay wow sorry...I got interrupted and that was enough to tell my mind "this post is complete" and hit send haha.

    I started off to say that ...7 goes a long way to being able to put a positive spin on any situation... But I think extroversion is a luxury in this regard that extroverts may (or may not) take for granted. Just knowing I could...if I were so inclined...assert myself without expending a week's worth of energy...may, in itself, reduce my sense of hurt or violation.

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    I'm just going to keep on posting in this thread (?) No, it just came to me that a lot of people do consider ENFPs to be easily hurt. How do we know that 'these people' are in fact ENFPs and not ESFJs or some other common mistype...idk, we don't. But I've seen quite a few people mention this. This has not been my experience but...

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    yeah, i was wondering if i was assuming too much saying ENFPs aren't easily hurt. but really, i mean, i can be hurt, but not often by what people say. unless it's already a soft spot for me. but then i go e7 mode and start rationalizing it almost immediately.

    i'm quick to become defensive sometimes (let her put as much bbq sauce as she wants on her damn chicken!). and i can ruminate on things people have said for far too long. but i dunno. i feel really able to think, "that's just your opinion. whatever," most of the time. and if it's something i need to work on, i take it as feedback, and try to use it in a positive way.

    the extroversion thing is interesting. hadn't thought much about it in that way. but yeah, expending energy isn't always a precious resource to me. so if i do it, and it doesn't work out or isn't appreciated, i just take that as an opportunity to switch things up, and get excited for a change. wow this really does reek of 7 doesn't it? i guess Ne dominance too, just thinking of life as trial and error, and not getting surprised when errors happen.
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    In terms of sensitivity, as far as I've observed, is that ENFP's really don't get into the tiny details of things. Everything is much more in general and put into a larger perspective. The INFP goes deeper into a thought or comment. After a conversation, I'll reflect back on it, too many times (I hate that), and I'll chop up each little sentence and sometimes be able to ascribe 3 meanings to it, and I'll decide how I feel about it, and even when I don't value someone's thoughts, I can still find away to be ticked off about it. Then, I'll get stuck on that one little sentence and have trouble letting go of the implied slight. That's not to say that I always do it, but I have and that's not an ENFP thing. That Ne being your first function makes a big difference as far as not dissecting sentences.

    It is strange about ENFP's that they can be outwardly focused and inwardly at the same time. From what I observed, the ENFP was putting all her thoughts and problems out there as in "everyone look at it," and we do, and tell her what we think about it, but she rejects input, or it seems that way. She'd have all these problems that never get solved because she had an idea about how she wanted things to be, and insisted that they were that way (no matter what anyone told her), and therefore, our input was not applicable/invalid because it doesn't fit her vision. So, she would only approach problems in a way that fit her vision of them, which was a fairy tale.

    I accept input and have to come to terms with it. It can be overwhelming if there's too much of it. And I always have so much doubt as to whether my truth is correct and I constantly adjust my worldview to match what's coming in. That's part of why I can be so quiet. I don't want to be stuck in my thoughts, thinking about one stupid sentence, when I'm trying to accomplish stuff.

    I hope none of that was insulting. I don't know what it feels like to be inside the ENFP mind, just what I observed.

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    I'm going to come back to this when I have more time because I am finding this really interesting... but another thing that came into my mind was there being a difference between 'feeling personally hurt' and 'offending Fi sensibilities.' By this I mean, there are times I may react in a way that may lead another to believe I'm personally hurt (if they were judging my reaction on "what it would mean if I did it")...when in truth I feel no personal hurt... I'm Fi 'right fighting.' I'm standing-up for someone down the road the individual may actually hurt.

    I'm wondering if this is also common in the IxFP...

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    Guess it's wrong to say I'm constantly realigning my vision, but really just attempting to put things into a bigger picture, and the bigger picture was built on a bunch of little pieces one at a time. Being more solid in my beliefs has helped me be less sensitive. ENFP's naturally see a bigger picture and INFP's might be struggling to see it.

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