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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    you do know when I went to quote you more words appeared? the forum has been acting strange lately. I have the opposite problem, I get accused of not saying enough even though I'm like it's right there. And it is, but still the other person doesn't believe me. So I just give up and go o ok.
    I saw your posts in the Forum glitches thread, with Werebudgie. Not sure what is going on there. With luck, Highlander, etc. can figure it out.

    As for wordiness, the key at work is to know our audience. The complete technical report wants one level of detail; the senior leaders want the whole story in 2-3 minutes. I've become rather good at condensing very complex stuff into essentially a sound bite, but I always cringe inside when I have to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I saw your posts in the Forum glitches thread, with Werebudgie. Not sure what is going on there. With luck, Highlander, etc. can figure it out.

    As for wordiness, the key at work is to know our audience. The complete technical report wants one level of detail; the senior leaders want the whole story in 2-3 minutes. I've become rather good at condensing very complex stuff into essentially a sound bite, but I always cringe inside when I have to do it.
    yeah perhaps. I'm just thinking and could be totally wrong but maybe because i'm easily distractble i lose thoughts in the middle of things and forget to finish them, but then once it's done and sent i think i've said everything i;ve wanted to say but haven't? I dunno not important.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post

    As for wordiness, the key at work is to know our audience. The complete technical report wants one level of detail; the senior leaders want the whole story in 2-3 minutes. I've become rather good at condensing very complex stuff into essentially a sound bite, but I always cringe inside when I have to do it.
    Really? I rather enjoy doing this.

    Something about getting to the bottom line, in least amount of words, is extremely appealing to me. I was never able to write very long essays in school. I found it to be a waste of time.

    Do you cringe because you have to do it. As in, you have no choice?
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    I'm wordy by nature, but ever since one of my English instructors called me "prolific" I've been trying to work on it. At the very least I try to break things up. If I'm staring at a wall of text and it's not a good story, chances are pretty good I'll tl;dr it. It's worse now because I'm starting to lose my near-sight but I don't want to wear bifocals, so it is physically uncomfortable to even try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'm wordy by nature, but ever since one of my English instructors called me "prolific" I've been trying to work on it.
    I had a professor refer to me as "prolific," but she meant it as positive feedback, often sharing my writing in class. Did your instructor mean something negative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    Really? I rather enjoy doing this.

    Something about getting to the bottom line, in least amount of words, is extremely appealing to me. I was never able to write very long essays in school. I found it to be a waste of time.

    Do you cringe because you have to do it. As in, you have no choice?
    There's the bottom line, and then turning that line into a dot. I have no problem cutting to the chase, but resent oversimplification as it does a disservice both the topic, and to the people claiming to want the information. It feels almost like being forced to lie, or at least misrepresent the situation.
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    I am wordy. Some people are just born loving words. I don't know that it has anything to do with type. There are authors of varying MBTI types.

    Pretentiousness in wordiness I tend to attribute to Ti. Ti can make things dense (not as in stupid, but as in thick to wade through) over precise, and in the case of educated Ti users, full of specialized jargon.

    I tend to be wordy more in the sense of yarn weaving story telling, or long babbling explanations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
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    Yes i think ti users tend to be wordy. Including ti terts.

    Actually especially infjs.

    Ni all explained by ti makes things quite wordy. Intjs tend to keep it precise.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly View Post
    Wordy is writing or as in the way they speak? I think you could say I am wordy. I waffle too much because I want to state my point absolutely perfectly. I also have a load of sub thoughts. And I don't know how to be concise. Limiting this post to just a few sentences is causing me pain.
    Yeah infjs seem tend to be the wordiest types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    I had a professor refer to me as "prolific," but she meant it as positive feedback, often sharing my writing in class. Did your instructor mean something negative?
    So brainy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I am wordy. Some people are just born loving words. I don't know that it has anything to do with type. There are authors of varying MBTI types.

    Pretentiousness in wordiness I tend to attribute to Ti. Ti can make things dense (not as in stupid, but as in thick to wade through) over precise, and in the case of educated Ti users, full of specialized jargon.

    I tend to be wordy more in the sense of yarn weaving story telling, or long babbling explanations.
    I've noticed that pretentiousness in wordiness mostly in 5w4s in rl. Oddly enough the 5w4 intps here doesn't seem that way at all. However the intjs seem so.

    Ti tends to over specify/explain too much whereas te tends to keep it precise and only tend to specify if someone inquires or if someone missed what they were trying to explain.

    And omgosh you are back! Perfectly coincides with sim's unbanning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    I've noticed that pretentiousness in wordiness mostly in 5w4s in rl. Oddly enough the 5w4 intps here doesn't seem that way at all. However the intjs seem so.

    Ti tends to over specify/explain too much whereas te tends to keep it precise and only tend to specify if someone inquires or if someone missed what they were trying to explain.

    And omgosh you are back! Perfectly coincides with sim's unbanning.
    I know. It's not a coincidence.

    Anyhoo, I just find for example even casual conversations with Solitary Walker tiring, and English isn't even his first language. I have similar headaches with a lot of academic texts which I swear on my life are conspiratorial works of xNTPs and INFJs.

    In school I do best with clear concise text, hopefully with points and boxes and graphs. I want TJs to write all of my text books.

    Bullet points for everyone!

    I am sure my blah blah blah also exhausts or annoys some people.

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