User Tag List

First 78910 Last

Results 81 to 90 of 91

  1. #81
    Senior Member Ilah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    274

    Default

    I have often thought that it was my introversion that made it difficult to get along with people, but after reading this I think it more of my N.

    On an introvert group I am on, I there is a lot of "no one understands me (except other introverts) because I am an introvert" sentiment. I wonder if it is really more that they are N that is the factor. Both N and introversion are in the minority and have trouble finding connections with people.

    I was surprised to find that I can identify with large parts of what the EN people on the site have said.

    At first I would have thought that the extrovertion would help Ns to fit in better. In other words I though that INs had it rougher then ENs, but after reading this I would have changed my mind. It is much easier for INs to turn their back on the crowd and spend time with themselve. I suspect INs tend to be more introverted than ISs because they have a harder time finding people they get along with.

    I also think the opposite gender T/F is a factor. I am female, but I can find guys I can talk too much more easily than women. It is easier for me to make friends with males than females.

    Ilah

    p.s. Please stop changing the thread title.

  2. #82
    Senior Member Grayscale's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    istp
    Posts
    1,962

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I would think that an N with the ability to link things and such would find it easier to adapt
    i was just about to point this out

  3. #83
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Christ, if being an N puts you THAT out of step with the "S world" that we supposedly live in, you guys must have it rough. It's a pretty alienating world a lot of the time for this ESFJ right here.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  4. #84
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    xkcd
    Enneagram
    9w1 sx/sp
    Socionics
    INT_
    Posts
    10,733

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Christ, if being an N puts you THAT out of step with the "S world" that we supposedly live in, you guys must have it rough.
    You have no idea.

  5. #85
    Tenured roisterer SolitaryWalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    INTP
    Enneagram
    5w6 so/sx
    Posts
    3,467

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Christ, if being an N puts you THAT out of step with the "S world" that we supposedly live in, you guys must have it rough. It's a pretty alienating world a lot of the time for this ESFJ right here.
    You're alienated because you're intelligent. Many Ns are for the same reason.

    Its not N alone that leads to alienation. N leads to intelligence which invariably results at being at odds with most of the world. Clearly, it is not the only way to become intelligent, as you seem to be the case in point.

    The only clear way we see that the N is at odds with the world is that they have a more difficult time furnishing talents dealing with the physical aspects of their lives. Yet this is certainly a very different kind of an inconvenience of being an N than that alluded to in the OP.
    "Do not argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." -- Mark Twain

    “No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money.”---Samuel Johnson

    My blog: www.randommeanderings123.blogspot.com/

  6. #86
    Senior Member FallsPioneer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    260

    Default

    The stronger I "N" things, the stronger my dissociation from my environment is. So I let that go every so often. I remember when I used to be a much stronger N (this is considering results of a dichotomy test) that I really felt listless and out of touch in a depressing way...I intellectualized my own existence and didn't have the ability to see many things as they are and accept it.

    Fitting in is a bunch of bullshit; I could "fit in" in a bunch of places and I do with honesty. Fitting in with a group of people is for high-schoolers and weird-ass office places with gossipy shit. I understand that I may in fact be different than most people but I don't think it is an actual part of who I am...I'm FallsPioneer, not FallsPioneer the different guy. I pretty much just ignore the idea of fitting in. Fitting in is only a real problem when it comes to security, although everyone has their insecure moments.

    "Hey, I'm human, you're human, let's chill."

    not

    "Hey, I'm a jock, you're a jock, let's chill."

    but sometimes...there's

    "Oh, hey, I played golf in sophomore of high school...REALLY intense...(awkward sigh)...yup!..."
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

  7. #87
    `~~Philosoflying~~` SillySapienne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    MBTI
    ENFP
    Enneagram
    4w5
    Posts
    9,849

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FallsPioneer View Post
    . "Hey, I'm human, you're human, let's chill."
    I can dig it!!!

    ^__^
    `
    'Cause you can't handle me...

    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

    Veritatem dies aperit

    Ride si sapis

    Intelligentle sparkles

  8. #88
    Resident Snot-Nose GZA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    MBTI
    infp
    Posts
    1,771

    Default

    I'm not sure if I "fit in" (and I no longer care) but I used to really feel like I didn't. It may be because of my N-ness, I'm not sure, but I just didn't feel like I related to anyone my own age. My Ne has been present and strong in me as long as I can remember, and some of the observations I made with it were not... normal and accepted by my peers, and perceived as weird. But more recently I've kind of used my intuition to reflect on people and everything and it now serves me as a way to try to relate to people more, and its bene pretty succesful.

    I don't think being "N" makes you not fit in, it's a matter of your entire personality, as others have said. I think, in my case, it had a lot to do with maturity, too. i.e. I once thought I was *above* what my peers did and thought, when I was like 12 or 13, and thus stood out and didn't relate, but as I've grown the last few years I'm more humble and I realize my age and lack of experience and maturity a lot more.

  9. #89
    Resident Snot-Nose GZA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    MBTI
    infp
    Posts
    1,771

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I can dig it!!!

    ^__^
    Me too! This attitude has gone a long way for me...

  10. #90
    Welcome to Sunnyside Mondo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    EsTP
    Enneagram
    6w7
    Posts
    1,996

    Default

    I often feel alienated by others.
    I find it hard to relate to many other people.
    I will arrogantly dismiss these people as being 'boring' and/or 'unintelligent'- usually after they dismiss me for not being part of their 'clique' (one that is usually boring and unintelligent)..
    I have a good group of friends- people I can be myself around BUT for some reason I just can't get over the fact that I can't get everyone to like me. That has depressed me for the longest of time.
    I just don't know whether it is a damaged Fi or a Ti just trying to analyze why people are doing what seems to be illogical.

    I don't think it's an S or N thing. I think it's a stupid people being stupid thing.
    Narrow minded sons of bitches who regularly reject anyone who isn't exactly like them.
    How ridiculous is that??
    MBTI Type: iNTj
    Enneagram Type: 3w4 sp/sx

Similar Threads

  1. [MBTItm] Interest in the MBTI is a Sign of Alienation or Self-Estrangement
    By Mal12345 in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 57
    Last Post: 09-22-2016, 05:31 PM
  2. [Ne] What does Ne look like? Can you easily spot it in a crowd?
    By Dreamer in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 09-16-2015, 01:55 PM
  3. [INTJ] INTJ guys, how can I spot you in a crowd?
    By LuzDeLuna in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 07-03-2012, 06:28 AM
  4. Moving the furniture in. Making the place cozy.
    By Brendan in forum Welcomes and Introductions
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-14-2009, 02:52 AM
  5. People in Crowds Pick Leaders...just like Sheep.
    By heart in forum General Psychology
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 03-28-2008, 02:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO