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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I attempt to read Wing's posts each independently of each other, sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I *really* don't.

    I don't sense arrogance in this particular post of his, but rather a slight hint of bitterness coupled with a prideful tone of resilience.

    I think he spoke the truth in that post, but then again, that's just like, my opinion, man.
    No, I agree, I was just pointing to this specific post only. When read objectively, it is clear, concise, and makes total sense and I don't disagree with it.

    I just wanted to see the vibe that other NF's got from this specific post, to see if it was similar to mine when viewed in a subjective sensitive feely way. Arrogance is also too harsh of a word, but then again pride means almost the same yet seems nicer, so we will go with a prideful tone.

    Bluewing, this has nothing to do with you personally, I am sorry if it comes off like that in anyway, this is just a social experiment. I actually enjoy most of your posts so keep em coming.

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    A lot of this ground was covered in this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    As I mention earlier. A person who is different from most people, should he be open-minded and equipped with sound people skills, can get along with most, but will have difficulty establishing profound relationships with others. This is why many Ns feel they can easily go with the flow, but 'feel alone' surrounded by people...
    I don't disagree, and that has been my experience too, especially when younger. It took me a long time before I felt comfortable with S-style people and also before I had found enough N people to realize I wasn't alone in the world.

    However, it looks like my answer was not addressing CC's original intent, as I was approaching it from the view of the S people and the N's impact on them. That's all. You're just coming at it from the angel she was asking about, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Hmm... so would being feared or admired fall under the category of "doesn't fit in"?

    If so... then I see that as fitting in as well.. there are just obstacles that people arrive upon in making you feel welcome.
    I think there is more of my rejecting them, than there is they rejecting me.

    Their admiring or fearing me is besides the point, their inability to *understand* me is what I am frustrated by because well, it kinda hurts, in a, damn-I-am-really-freakin'-alone sorta way.

    To be alone is no biggy, to feel alone, however, is.

    Gah, blah, nothing.

    I shouldn't care or dwell on those that are different than/from me, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I think there is more of my rejecting them, than there is they rejecting me.
    This is precisely the sort of "obstacle" I meant.

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    What the fizzle?!?!?

    Who changed my title????

    I meant the more *your* N, as in the greater the amount your N is, not the more you are N.

    Grrrrrrr!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    How could this be, coming from someone that just said "Being exceptional can really suck ass sometimes."
    I don't think it is arrogant to realize and accept the fact and consequences of one being objectively exceptional from the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I don't think it is arrogant to realize and accept the fact and consequences of one being objectively exceptional from the norm.
    Forgive her, Your Highness.
    (She did not mean to speak so plainly.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I don't think it is arrogant to realize and accept the fact and consequences of one being objectively exceptional from the norm.

    But.. wouldn't that be a matter of opinion? That is to say, subjective?

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    There are those who are exceptionally tall, short, intelligent, flexible, talented, etc. from the norm, i.e. the average human population, no?

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