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    Quote Originally Posted by Werebudgie View Post
    Yeghor's understanding of MBTI/cognitive processes is flawed at its core given his central use of it to explain something about him and his life that it simply was not designed to explain. The INFJ self-type is for sure part of this situation of self-delusion, but not the core. The core is the apparent need to use MBTI/cognitive processes to understand non-related psychological issues/sickness. Remove the cognitive function concepts and language as a way to describe it, and there's more of a chance that he'll be left facing whatever the actual illiness/issues really are.
    You just described a recurrent problem in this forum and it has been going on for years. It is hardly a personal problem of Yeghor's, alone.

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    How the hell did this discussion become about yeghor's mental health?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbage View Post
    How the hell did this discussion become about yeghor's mental health?
    Yeah, I think that's BS. Don't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I aspire to be a wise man, happy with life and with a circle of close friends--a community...
    Could that be because you also carry an abandoned INFJ template, i.e. shadow inside of you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
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    Here is some basic ideas around the concepts of anima and shadow. And no dont try to think that this has much to do with the 8 function/beebean theory of type, it uses those terms differently when connecting them to functions. Personally i like jungs idea about type and whole psyche more than those new theories of personality based on jungs ideas. This is because i can see them working in me and others, and i used to buy that 8 function theory, but when i realized that the theory was flawed myself and realized where it went wrong, i read jungs original works and saw that it fit much better and opened some heavy duty knots from my brains, thinking myself in terms of this 8 function theory just made the knots tighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Could that be because you also carry an abandoned INFJ template, i.e. shadow inside of you?
    Perhaps.

    From my experience, INFJ describes my stress behavior better than ISTJ...if I understand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Perhaps.

    From my experience, INFJ describes my stress behavior better than ISTJ...if I understand...
    Do you externally pass moral judgments on people when you are angry with them?

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    Consider the "bite" as a psyche-splitting trauma...


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    I'm new to this discussion and don't have a conclusion about any of it, but it does strike me that when we talk about how we behave when stressed, that there are many layers in that process. I don't see a continuum of type-shadow through which a person moves with varying degrees of stress, but something a bit more multifaceted.

    I have experienced several levels of stress during my life and my reactions at various levels are different. I recently went through an experience of extreme, prolonged stress, and my reaction was atypically aggressive, blunt, and shockingly the opposite of who I am.

    A more common reaction to even rather extreme stress has always been for me to withdraw. Emotional and even psychological shut-down is my first level of stress reaction and I become compliant in most ways, but unable to respond in many ways. My demeanor is gentle, vulnerable, and possibly even mellow in external presentation.

    When pushed further I withdraw to feel intense emotional pain and fall into circular, emotional reasoning with negative fixation. I can cry with intensity for hours and agonize, plead inside for mercy from the universe.

    After that level my emotional circuits overload and I end up in a state of pure detachment and sometimes clarity of reason. I can make complex, important decisions under that extreme stress almost like being in a state of pure Ti.

    My one most extreme breakdown was one in which I screamed what I understood to be the truth, expressing it in a manner that didn't care for reasoned presentation, but the most shocking, visceral portrayal of my inner pain. It was so opposite of my normal self that it is frightening to people close to me even though I'm not causing any actual concrete damage to anything except possibly myself.
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