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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Based on the "assumption" that your shadow "in the jungian sense" is ENTJ, the theory proposed herein would suggest that your MBTI type is INTP...

    Another point to check would be the type of women that turns on your primal instincts, i.e. your anima...

    An IxTP would be drawn like a magnet towards Fe-dom women i.e. ExFJs, whereas an INxJ would be drawn towards Se-doms, i.e. ExFPs...

    Flawed how?

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    I'm drawn to ExFPs, with the draw to ESFPs being... it's complicated, i've covered this all here for years.

    Flawed in that it is not an accurate methodology for figuring out type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'm drawn to ExFPs, with the draw to ESFPs being... it's complicated, i've covered this all here for years.

    Flawed in that it is not an accurate methodology for figuring out type.
    Yeah I recall a post where you compared ESFP and ENFP women..

    I wonder how all these would fit in the ego, superego and id concepts...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Yeah I recall a post where you compared ESFP and ENFP women..

    I wonder how all these would fit in the ego, superego and id concepts...?

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    I find those concepts fit better in the Enneagram system, as both are based on triads, not dyads.

    Socionics does incorporate them somehow, but I'm not quite sure how.

    I, taking a bit from Socionics' book, often call the first two functions the "ego block".

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    And what I mean by "drawn" is the kind of sexual attraction that makes you drool over...that drives your prinal side i.e. "id" crazy...

    Does that mean anima is related to "id" ?
    I do find the anima/animus to be most related to the Id.

    Then again, perhaps that's just cuz mine is Se (and Fi).

    As for the women that do that to me: ESFPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I do find the anima/animus to be most related to the Id.

    Then again, perhaps that's just cuz mine is Se (and Fi).

    As for the women that do that to me: ESFPs.
    Hmm, might explain why I am drawn more towards ESTPs...

    Could it be that ego superego and id compromise the "self", and the first 4 functions are the conscious self whereas the other 4 are the unconscious...If the first 2 compromise the ego, 3rd and 4th the id; then where does superego reside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Hmm, might explain why I am drawn more towards ESTPs...
    Yeah, they don't really do it for me.

    Could it be that ego superego and id compromise the "self", and the first 4 functions are the conscious self whereas the other 4 are the unconscious...If the first 2 compromise the ego, 3rd and 4th the id; then where does superego reside?
    I don't know.

    This stuff doesn't necessarily work out cleanly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yeah, they don't really do it for me

    I don't know.

    This stuff doesn't necessarily work out cleanly.
    Here's what occurred to me... the ego superego and id are not related to the function order...but the type of function and it's direction...

    For instance,

    Internally directed perceiving (Si and Ni) functions are related with superego, gazing onto self...fearfullness, caution... conscience...

    Externally directed perceiving (Se and Ne) functions are related to id... sensation and pleasure seeking, disregard for boundaries, fearlessness...

    Judging functions (Ti, Fi, Te, Fe) are related to ego...their direction signifies the direction self-worth is anchored at, dependent upon...

    Based on this model, INxJ and ISXJ would be superego-dominant...

    INFJs ego would be defined by Fe-aux and Ti-tert...let's say aux=4 * tert for simplicity...so INFJs ego would be defined by 4 part societal values + 1 part internal values...?

    :eek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Here's what occurred to me... the ego superego and id are not related to the function order...but the type of function and it's direction...

    For instance,

    Internally directed perceiving (Si and Ni) functions are related with superego, gazing onto self...fearfullness, caution... conscience...

    Externally directed perceiving (Se and Ne) functions are related to id... sensation and pleasure seeking, disregard for boundaries, fearlessness...

    Judging functions (Ti, Fi, Te, Fe) are related to ego...their direction signifies the direction self-worth is anchored at, dependent upon...

    Based on this model, INxJ and ISXJ would be superego-dominant...

    INFJs ego would be defined by Fe-aux and Ti-tert...let's say aux=4 * tert for simplicity...so INFJs ego would be defined by 4 part societal values + 1 part internal values...?

    :eek:

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    Let's say function conversion coefficient is 2 instead of 4...then based on this IxxJs' self is:

    8 part superego. 50%
    6 part ego. 40%
    1 part id. 10%

    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Let's say function conversion coefficient is 2 instead of 4...then based on this INFJs' self is:

    8 part superego
    6 part ego
    1 part id

    ?

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    IxxP would be :

    9 part ego. 60 %
    4 part id. 25%
    2 part superego. 15%

    ExxP would be :

    8 part id. 50%
    6 part ego. 40%
    1 part superego. 10%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Also, I'm not certain where you're going with this, but I do have the feeling that your methodology is flawed.
    Wait for it...

    ................

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Based on the "assumption" that your shadow "in the jungian sense" is ENTJ, the theory proposed herein would suggest that your MBTI type is INTP...
    Yep. It was only a matter of time.

    This thread is hilarious. Plus which: emoticons!



    eta: whoa, I just read the stuff after those comments. NiTi looping perhaps, but more and more I'm thinking that this has got to be satirical performance art.

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