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    Default Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul Typing

    Although I like Tim Burton's version better, the belowgiven scene between Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul made me wonder about their types...



    There seems to be some kind of discrepancy in both characters between what they say (their values) and how they carry themselves (their body language) around...I think they were ill-suited for their roles...Liam Neeson seems like some kind of a feeler IRL he doesn't do well in heavy T roles...

    Whereas Christian Bale feels like a T-type and sucks at idealist (F) roles...IMO...

    So, what do you think their types are IRL and in the Batman Begins Movie...?

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    well, first off, Batman is not really a character I would compare to an "idealist" personality. he is dark and calculating and, not warm, humanistic and charismatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Thanks...Damn I need to learn more about enneagram some time...

    About the typing...Could it be that the actors' real life demeanor is somehow contaminating that of the characters they are playing?

    Bruce Wayne says something like "Give me more time...Gotham isn't beyond saving...There are good people here"...It doesn't feel like a very utilitarian\pragmatist Te approach to me...Neither does Ras' plan to wipe out the city rather than optimizing it and then taking it over...

    I think there must be something more at play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Thanks...Damn I need to learn more about enneagram some time...

    About the typing...Could it be that the actors' real life demeanor is somehow contaminating that of the characters they are playing?

    Bruce Wayne says something like "Give me more time...Gotham isn't beyond saving...There are good people here"...It doesn't feel like a very utilitarian\pragmatist Te approach to me...Neither does Ras' plan to wipe out the city rather than optimizing it and then taking it over...

    I think there must be something more at play...

    Another fallacy of misunderstood MBTI: That you need to be an idealist to believe in or at least support community values.

    Ras's judgment could easily express the severity of E1, but I haven't bothered to think about it much. And sometimes it's easier to just destroy everything and start from a fresh slate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Another fallacy of misunderstood MBTI: That you need to be an idealist to believe in or at least support community values.
    What do you need to be then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    What do you need to be then?
    You don't "need" to be anything.
    Anyone can support their community values.

    Type more determines how they go about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    You don't "need" to be anything.
    Anyone can support their community values.

    Type more determines how they go about it.
    And Bruce Wayne's style feels more like...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    And Bruce Wayne's style feels more like...?
    If I cared to comment on Bruce Wayne's type, I would have done so already.

    I'm just stating broad principles of typing. You guys can argue specific type as much as you want until the bats come home to roost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    If I cared to comment on Bruce Wayne's type, I would have done so already.

    I'm just stating broad principles of typing. You guys can argue specific type as much as you want until the bats come home to roost.
    Well, thanks for nothing then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Well, thanks for nothing then...
    :p I clarified that one did not have to be an idealist to be supportive in some way of community values.
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