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    Under stress I do experience the Ni-Ti loop (I think my understanding of this loop is correct but tell me if I am wrong). An example is if I make a mistake or something that I perceive to be a mistake at work I overthink it and it's future implications "Oh my God every thinks I'm incompetent and I'm going to get fired. Oh my God what if I am incompetent at everything?" etc etc etc. I can become rather paranoid which makes me withdraw from the world and avoid situations that provoke me to overthink and become paranoid. I also because hypersensitive to things. I take everything personally and read WAY too much into things that I normally would just take at face value or shrug off. When I'm not under stress I am quite a reasonable person but under stress I am irritable, irrational and overreact a little sometimes. It's like my feelings become way more intense than normal and I can't see clearly through the haze of emotion. It's not nice
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    I think short-term stress- which might be something that only really effects the moment I'm in, such as having far too many things on my schedule- might be INFJ related. When I have too many things on my plate I end up making stupid mistakes- like putting my keys in the freezer while putting away groceries, or leaving the iron turned on, etc. As a result, knowing that I make these kinds of mistakes, I become preoccupied with making sure I'm not doing it- I'll keep checking to make sure my keys are in the correct spot by the door, or I'll maybe need to 'make sure' my iron is turned off/unplugged several times (and the oven, my straightening iron, etc- anything I recently used) before I leave the house. I will FREAK OUT if someone moves my keys, or purse, or anything I need from its regular spot. This is how I get after too many days of having too much stuff scheduled.

    Longer term stress though- that totally manifests in the enneagram 5 way (withdrawal, feeling like I need to understand something absolutely before even attempting to act on it- as if there's no doubt in my mind I'll only screw up and ultimately make more work for myself if I can't plan it out entirely before I start- sometimes even 'studying' something unrelated just to get rid of anxiety...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    I think short-term stress- which might be something that only really effects the moment I'm in, such as having far too many things on my schedule- might be INFJ related. When I have too many things on my plate I end up making stupid mistakes- like putting my keys in the freezer while putting away groceries, or leaving the iron turned on, etc. As a result, knowing that I make these kinds of mistakes, I become preoccupied with making sure I'm not doing it- I'll keep checking to make sure my keys are in the correct spot by the door, or I'll maybe need to 'make sure' my iron is turned off/unplugged several times (and the oven, my straightening iron, etc- anything I recently used) before I leave the house. I will FREAK OUT if someone moves my keys, or purse, or anything I need from its regular spot. This is how I get after too many days of having too much stuff scheduled.
    Okay, this reveals to me that I was wrong when saying it's mostly enneagram. IMO this for sure maps to Se-inf and I see it in myself as well.

    Interesting distinction between short term stress and longer term:

    Longer term stress though- that totally manifests in the enneagram 5 way (withdrawal, feeling like I need to understand something absolutely before even attempting to act on it- as if there's no doubt in my mind I'll only screw up and ultimately make more work for myself if I can't plan it out entirely before I start- sometimes even 'studying' something unrelated just to get rid of anxiety...).
    Yes, this makes sense to me, I really appreciate the distinction.

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    For me, blunted affect. Come off as a pseudo Ti-dom. Try to separate myself from my feelings entirely. Initially I may feel some physical symptoms-- quite nauseated/tired from the acute stress (also a migraine trigger), forget to eat, don't sleep enough/at all or way too much- but I've experienced rather severe stress for long periods of time, and.. you adjust. How I adjusted was by intellectualizing my emotional responses as much as possible. Doing that was a bit like hittiing PAUSE on my emotions to some extent, & stepping away from them. If I'm physically depleted on top of emotionally, I will pull away from people I care about/fall off the planet, as well. Natural means of trying to conserve energy and collect myself/get things done. I may have less patience for people at that point, but I do my best to explain my need for space, so people I care for don't have to wonder if they've possibly done something to upset me. Particularly pushy people who disregard that boundary (despite explaining my need for space) tend to get the cold shoulder from me, if I'm drained enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    For me, blunted affect. Come off as a pseudo Ti-dom. Try to separate myself from my feelings entirely. Initially I may feel some physical symptoms-- quite nauseated/tired from the acute stress (also a migraine trigger), forget to eat, don't sleep enough/at all or way too much- but I've experienced rather severe stress for long periods of time, and.. you adjust. How I adjusted was by intellectualizing my emotional responses as much as possible. Doing that was a bit like hittiing PAUSE on my emotions to some extent, & stepping away from them. If I'm physically depleted on top of emotionally, I will pull away from people I care about/fall off the planet, as well. Natural means of trying to conserve energy and collect myself/get things done. I may have less patience for people at that point, but I do my best to explain my need for space, so people I care for don't have to wonder if they've possibly done something to upset me. Particularly pushy people who disregard that boundary (despite explaining my need for space) tend to get the cold shoulder from me, if I'm drained enough.
    I can relate to this. I have a 'survival mode' where I don't seem to feel anything if I'm under a lot of real life stress.

    However, if it's 'emotional stress' that I'm experiencing, it's a completely different story. I'll still withdraw, but once I'm alone I will try to experience it to the fullest and try to make sense of it. I will retire to bed early but will lie awake thinking and crying and figuring it out, and might get up in the middle of the night and walk in the process.

    If it's not severe stress and if I have no control over it, I tend to flee into books/movies/tv series/writing. If you see me devouring fiction at an unnatural rate, it usually means I'm fleeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly View Post
    Under stress I do experience the Ni-Ti loop (I think my understanding of this loop is correct but tell me if I am wrong). An example is if I make a mistake or something that I perceive to be a mistake at work I overthink it and it's future implications "Oh my God every thinks I'm incompetent and I'm going to get fired. Oh my God what if I am incompetent at everything?" etc etc etc. I can become rather paranoid which makes me withdraw from the world and avoid situations that provoke me to overthink and become paranoid. I also because hypersensitive to things. I take everything personally and read WAY too much into things that I normally would just take at face value or shrug off. When I'm not under stress I am quite a reasonable person but under stress I am irritable, irrational and overreact a little sometimes. It's like my feelings become way more intense than normal and I can't see clearly through the haze of emotion. It's not nice
    I relate to that quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21% View Post
    I can relate to this. I have a 'survival mode' where I don't seem to feel anything if I'm under a lot of real life stress.

    However, if it's 'emotional stress' that I'm experiencing, it's a completely different story. I'll still withdraw, but once I'm alone I will try to experience it to the fullest and try to make sense of it. I will retire to bed early but will lie awake thinking and crying and figuring it out, and might get up in the middle of the night and walk in the process.

    If it's not severe stress and if I have no control over it, I tend to flee into books/movies/tv series/writing. If you see me devouring fiction at an unnatural rate, it usually means I'm fleeing.
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