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    Who is this raptor person and what is he babbling about?
    He is the Henry Darger of the internet.

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    @Zarathustra at least it's not just me then

    How do you fare in job interviews, before you've had a chance to build up an ethos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    @Zarathustra at least it's not just me then

    How do you fare in job interviews, before you've had a chance to build up an ethos?
    Extremely well

    My resume builds up an ethos

    The conversation is all about profession, and I do better when there is a set topic, a set goal, we are trying to achieve

    Where I flounder more socially is where there's no topic, no goal - just bullshitting. It leaves my mind relatively blank, and my natural reaction time to constantly be coming up with things on the fly is not that of an ENTP. I have been called witty enough times that I must be capable of doing something right, and, in rare occasions (once or thrice a year at most) I can actually adopt an EP persona (whether it's ENTP or ESFP I'm still not sure) that comes off very naturally, and then I am actually very quick-witted, but, for the most part, having to come up with witty banter about random topics that are just flyin around, and having to intake all the various social cues going on, just seems to require a certain speed and kind of processing that my normal mode of functioning, Ni, is not naturally inclined to. I can go into a meditative state on command, and, when I get going, wax poetic or tear an opponent to pieces in a debate, when there is a single topic of focus that I am knowledgeable, or feel strongly, about, but just spouting random bullshit about random topics about which I don't necessarily have particularly strong feelings or thoughts is not my forté.

    And I'm extremely good in one-on-one, or two-on-one, situations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    @Zarathustra at least it's not just me then
    When it's written down, like in my responses to you, or in my other posts, if you ever read them, does what I say make more sense? I know you haven't ever heard me in person, but perhaps just in comparison to those Ni doms you have heard in person. Does your understanding of/reaction to what I write differ from your understanding/reaction when you hear them speak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    When it's written down, like in my responses to you, or in my other posts, if you ever read them, does what I say make more sense? I know you haven't ever heard me in person, but perhaps just in comparison to those Ni doms you have heard in person. Does your understanding of/reaction to what I write differ from your understanding/reaction when you hear them speak?
    Your writing is easy to understand. For Ni users in general I think my brain is looking for discrete chunks of information and I have trouble parsing it because I see it all running together. Like I'm waiting for one point to end before the next, but that never happens. Reading it is easier because I can go back and double check things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Your writing is easy to understand. For Ni users in general I think my brain is looking for discrete chunks of information and I have trouble parsing it because I see it all running together. Like I'm waiting for one point to end before the next, but that never happens. Reading it is easier because I can go back and double check things.
    Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense.

    Yeah, I feel like we sort of weave together tapestries, and all parts of what we say help form that tapestry.

    So, that blending of it all together, which I definitely feel myself do, lacks the "discrete chunks" you're looking for...

    Interesting. And makes sense...

    In light of that, what do you think we should do?

    I mean, from my end, I find the way we weave these tapestries our essential gift we bring to the table.

    So I don't know if stopping doing that would be the right answer; what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Ti reaction to Ni picture:

    Ni - "The myths are an storehouse of infinite knowledge. They speak of the Midgard Serpent lying at the bottom of the see. He encircles the globe and when he moved great earth trembles cause terrible convulsions. Most believe this is just a tale, but the ancient knew of his existence at the bottom of the oceans. Now, with modern technology, we can see for ourselves that the Myths were true--he does exist. But how did primitive Norsemen know of this great belt of fissions at the bottom of the oceans? Perhaps they were not primitive as most people think they were? Did they have knowledge passed down to them from thousands of years earlier, in a time when their ancestors had built an advance civilization, more advance than ours' today? But when it collapsed, their knowledge were encoded in Myths passed down from generation to generation? Take a look at the maps once more and think about it."


    Ti - "It is funny and might be an interpretation of the myth into modern cosmology we can use today, but the thing about “advance civilization, more advance than ours' today” are at best silly and a little insulting to our ancestors, who did amazing things with the technology available to them. Notice that the map is manipulated. The ridges at the west coast of Greenland are very small and not active anymore and in the pacific there is no ridge along the Californian coast and along Aleutian Islands. If they decided to take island arcs at destructive plate boundaries, then there are plenty of more places that need to be included in the serpent.
    This is the worst example you could have come up with, the supposed Ni dom sounds moronic. Factual errors galore, magical thinking with no evidence to back it up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    In reality, Ni-dom and Ti-dom debating a concrete topic look very, very different.

    Ni-dom makes a bizarre claim.
    Ti-dom knocks it down logically.
    Ni-dom doesn't see his or her claim as "bizarre," but sees logic as a less important than 'reality.'
    Ti-dom gets annoyed and starts badgering Ni-dom.
    Never experienced anything remotely like it in my life. Again, Ti doms are painted as the logic reasonable people against the pie-in-the-sky Ni doms .

    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Not at my house.
    Neither in mine. My mom it's an INTP and I'm the one who's always pointing to the most logic conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    I am Ni aux, but a lot of what comes out of my mouth is way too abstact for others. It's too 1,5,7,10, then bam, conclusion....Where most people need to go through 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 to get to 10 and then the conclusion.

    I can see something finished before anyone else can. If they have not had the real life experience to prove that it will work, they don't believe me. It's a matter of preference in the end though.

    Cause I am willing to sacrifice the now, for the later. Big time. Where others prefer not to do that. That's where most of my goals sound unmanageable to others. But not to me, cause the long term vision is so much stronger than short term.

    I think even on here, at TypoC, my posts are misconstrued. (Mostly cause I'm always in a rush but...)

    I do try to clarify my ideas with examples though. That is the most practical way that I can explain anything, so that everyone's on the same page.
    "Abstract" is a fitting term.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    Ni doesn't exist. Sorry.
    But continue with your attempt at self awareness. eventually you'll outgrow self obsession, and typology will fall away naturally.
    Yeah it doesn't. We're all experiencing a collective hallucination.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorS View Post
    I blame Myers wrongly equating N with intellectualism for this BS, there are plently of S intellectuals. Jung typed both Darwin and Aristotle as ESTJs. The Scottish Enlightenment philosopher David Hume was almost certainly an ESFP. On the flip side, I have a new co-worker who is almost certainly an INFJ and she is not at all intellectual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    The plethora of Ni doms on this site is woeful.
    Poor soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    I recently encountered some Ni doms, and it seemed like whenever they try to talk to me I can't quite make sense of what they're saying, like I hear the words and it sounds intelligible, but my mind just crashes and burns trying to put together a response.
    That's commom occurence between INxJ's and Fe doms. It's also pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Extremely well

    My resume builds up an ethos

    The conversation is all about profession, and I do better when there is a set topic, a set goal, we are trying to achieve

    Where I flounder more socially is where there's no topic, no goal - just bullshitting. It leaves my mind relatively blank, and my natural reaction time to constantly be coming up with things on the fly is not that of an ENTP. I have been called witty enough times that I must be capable of doing something right, and, in rare occasions (once or thrice a year at most) I can actually adopt an EP persona (whether it's ENTP or ESFP I'm still not sure) that comes off very naturally, and then I am actually very quick-witted, but, for the most part, having to come up with witty banter about random topics that are just flyin around, and having to intake all the various social cues going on, just seems to require a certain speed and kind of processing that my normal mode of functioning, Ni, is not naturally inclined to. I can go into a meditative state on command, and, when I get going, wax poetic or tear an opponent to pieces in a debate, when there is a single topic of focus that I am knowledgeable, or feel strongly, about, but just spouting random bullshit about random topics about which I don't necessarily have particularly strong feelings or thoughts is not my forté.

    And I'm extremely good in one-on-one, or two-on-one, situations
    I relate to this a lot actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Look Alive_Sunshine View Post
    This is the worst example you could have come up with, the supposed Ni dom sounds moronic. Factual errors galore, magical thinking with no evidence to back it up...
    Please stop responding to my posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Please stop responding to my posts.
    Please stop posting such poor representations of my lead cognitive function that I have no choice but to comment on. Or put me on ignore.

    Also, good to know I wasn't wrong about INTPs at all. Very touchy.

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