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    Default Which types have problems with identity?

    Ti and Fi are supposed to be linked with individualism. I know that INFJ is one. Who else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    Ti and Fi are supposed to be linked with individualism. I know that INFJ is one. Who else?
    What do you mean by problems with identity? I am highly individualistic yet I chameleon in social situations and put on several different, unique personas.

    I'd imagine it would be an Fe dom with the whole pleasing others before self aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    What do you mean by problems with identity?
    People with a weak sense of self. They are empty inside. They have to look to outside sources to define them. Tend to turn to things like religion. Susceptible to group think or cult mentalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    People with a weak sense of self. They are empty inside. They have to look to outside sources to define them. Tend to turn to things like religion. Susceptible to group think or cult mentalities.
    I'd say any type that has Fi as the inf. function. They would externalize their sense of self because Fi is in such a weak position, and when Fi starts to develop, it might create the infamous mid-life crisis of "Who am I" and "Why am I doing this if I'm not happy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    People with a weak sense of self. They are empty inside. They have to look to outside sources to define them. Tend to turn to things like religion. Susceptible to group think or cult mentalities.
    Potentially any extreme extrovert type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    People with a weak sense of self. They are empty inside. They have to look to outside sources to define them. Tend to turn to things like religion. Susceptible to group think or cult mentalities.
    ISTP. Failing that, of course, ESFJs. I tend to find it hard to tell ESFJs and ISTPs apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    I'd say any type that has Fi as the inf. function. They would externalize their sense of self because Fi is in such a weak position, and when Fi starts to develop, it might create the infamous mid-life crisis of "Who am I" and "Why am I doing this if I'm not happy?"
    I looked at people with Fi and Ti in the last position and I don't really see any problems there. Probably because they have access to their shadow type. Well excluding esfjs I haven't looked much into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    I looked at people with Fi and Ti in the last position and I don't really see much problems there. Probably because they have access to their shadow type.
    So, when you act like an ENFJ, what do you do? How does your inferior function of Fe manifest itself? A lot of times it kicks in when I can't make sense of something through Introverted Thinking. This happens most often in social situations.

    I've found it more helpful to think about how I fit into them rather than to just dismiss others as sheep, although I have certainly done that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    So, when you act like an ENFJ, what do you do? How does your inferior function of Fe manifest itself? A lot of times it kicks in when I can't make sense of something through Introverted Thinking. This happens most often in social situations.

    I've found it more helpful to think about how I fit into them rather than to just dismiss others as sheep, although I have certainly done that as well.
    Mostly in the way I socialize I put my whole self out there like an enfj. Also my anger is quite intense. You have access to esfj. I don't know any ESFJs but supposebly they are big religion followers. If that's because of Si or a weak identity I don't know.

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