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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    @chaoticbrain,

    I see what you mean about the photos (there is no way a photo of me would ever look like that either. I hate having to even look at a camera. In most pics I'm looking downward).

    Why would SeFi be second to FiNe in the pained look rather than FiSe?
    *shrugs* who knows ? It can appear to varying degrees in different individuals, but SeFi definitely appears to be the second most common ime.

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    @chaoticbrain, what sort of look would you call this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    @chaoticbrain, what sort of look would you call this:

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    Off in a daze of your thoughts (Ne)? I don't think that's really any signal I'm aware of, theres still much research that can be done on facial expressions imo. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticbrain View Post
    Off in a daze of your thoughts (Ne)? I don't think that's really any signal I'm aware of, theres still much research that can be done on facial expressions imo. .
    Just wondering because that's a pretty typical default expression of mine, and since you posted photos of Fiona Apple I figured I'd give it a shot.

    I do think I'm beginning to see the differences between Ne/Si and Ni/Se and Se/Ni in this theory, though. My daughter, for example, has very Ni eyes- that heavy upper lid and the look of staring through. It's pretty consistent with her considering I thought her likely NiFe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Just wondering because that's a pretty typical default expression of mine, and since you posted photos of Fiona Apple I figured I'd give it a shot.
    Ya the look there I suppose would give me a JiNe vibe, but theres only specific pictures that can really decipher a lot about someone.

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    Fiona does have (clinical) anxiety issues, which I'd assume could be contributing to that manic look you're seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticbrain View Post
    Ya the look there I suppose would give me a JiNe vibe, but theres only specific pictures that can really decipher a lot about someone.
    Yeah, I wouldn't expect to be typed off a pic.

    @Stansmith, thanks for mentioning that because that was something I wanted to get to as well. How do you distinguish between someone who is actually manic and someone who 'looks' manic? Could a Ne/Si, for example, have manic eyes when manic and thus be confused as a Se/Ni?

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    Ok...

    So I was glad to read this and it cannot be ignored as far as this whole cognitive type visual reading goes:

    From the originator of the system:

    Hello guys,

    So this board is designed to demonstrate some more advanced-level signals and psychological evaluations of individuals. It's meant to fill in the unknowns that the Larin series doesn't address. The Larin Series presents only the most contrasted and pure differentiations between signals for the sake of clarity, however visual reading gets a lot more intense as you dig deeper and find what seem like contradictions. Every aspect of a person's life has to be considered, and the whole of their pattern seen at once.

    Hard Truth:
    The psyche is a complex system, if not the most complex system to date. Whatever the reality of it's operation is, it goes without saying that it's not easy to understand - else we would have cracked it centuries ago. Human psychology is a realm of study that is inseparable from subjectivity, as it is the very origin of subjectivity. As such a subjective comprehension is, to some extent, required to understand this subjective apparatus. And despite present scientific lore which would discredit such an approach, in the realm of psychic analysis it is crucial not to depreciate our abstract perceptions, but instead part of the process is to understand them, how they play a role in the way we built our worldview and even the way in which we form epistemological approaches.

    Convenient as isolated sensory analysis would be (sterile Visual Reading), there is no 100% guaranteed magic shortcut to read every person's psyche using an easy template of signals alone. For a large number of people, you really do have to get to know people on a psychic level to understand them. With time this develops templates of the sixteen types using real life examples that you've known psychically and can identify via psychic rhythms. The more people you've understood on a psychological level, the more reference you will have to draw from to understand people's psychologies and how it is affecting their expressions. Sometimes when the signals won't make sense, other things will - such as the thought pattern they are following/chasing which may be identical to a close friend of yours whose type you do know. Looking closer you may begin to see how the person's individual upbringing may be affecting the signals they emit.

    Like a profiler or investigator, there are different levels of competence depending on how many variables one is able to read from a situation. The general premise of psychoanalysis is that everything is interconnected and the aim is to see how all things are affecting each other. Personally, this endless puzzle is what draws me to psychology. I'm far from done learning (I have a long way to go) and so I hope the material herein can be a starting point from which others can explore about all the nuances of humanity's psychic algorithm.
    http://cognitivetype.boards.net/thre...vanced-reading

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    @brainheart well that was from 7 months ago, and visual reading can go a long way in 7 months. I think it's likely he doesn't feel that way anymore, maybe I'll ask him sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticbrain View Post
    @brainheart well that was from 7 months ago, and visual reading can go a long way in 7 months. I think it's likely he doesn't feel that way anymore, maybe I'll ask him sometime.
    Well it definitely seems like most people on the ct forum don't heed that advice, at least. I really wanted to approach it with an open mind but-

    Patti Smith and Leonard Cohen TeNi? Bob Dylan TiSe? I see stuff like that and feel no reason to pay attention.

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