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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    Alpha - I'm awesome and I'll show you

    Beta - I'm awesome and I'll tell you

    Gamma - I'm awesome but you'll never see it

    Delta - I'm awesome, leave me alone
    Hmm, the way I see it:

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    Immature man-child seems the least objectionable. I'll take it.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Alpha - Video games, Anime, Television sitcoms/dramas, Quirky topics.

    Beta - Bitches, Sports, Homoeroticism.

    Gamma - Career, Film, Deadpan humor, Snobbery.

    Delta - Family, Food, Politics, Literature.

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    You guys make us Deltas out to be so dull.
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    just trying to figure this out myself... so if i am getting this right:

    alpha's: Fe/Ti, Ne/Si
    ENTp INTj ESFj ISFp

    beta's: Fe/Ti, Se/Ni
    ESTp ISTj ENFj INFp

    gamma's: Te/Fi, Se/Ni
    ESFp ISFj ENTj INTp

    delta's: Te/Fi, Ne/Si
    ENFp INFj ESTj ISTp

    so i suppose the question becomes:
    what can be said about each function regardless of it's location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    just trying to figure this out myself... so if i am getting this right:

    alpha's: Fe/Ti, Ne/Si
    ENTp INTj ESFj ISFp

    beta's: Fe/Ti, Se/Ni
    ESTp ISTj ENFj INFp

    gamma's: Te/Fi, Se/Ni
    ESFp ISFj ENTj INTp

    delta's: Te/Fi, Ne/Si
    ENFp INFj ESTj ISTp

    so i suppose the question becomes:
    what can be said about each function regardless of it's location?
    Alpha/Beta share Fe/Ti
    Alpha/Delta share Si/Ne
    Beta/Gamma share Se/Ni
    Gamma/Delta share Fi/Te

    Si - What affects the senses
    Ne - What could be

    Se - What is; what has power
    Ni - What was and what will be

    Fe - Making decisions based on dynamic emotional atmosphere
    Ti - Making decisions based on static internal logic/framework

    Fi - Making decisions based on static internal ethics
    Te - Making decisions based on dynamic external logic; controlling movement of objects in space

    Edit:

    Te, Fe, Si, Ni are dynamic
    Se, Ne, Ti, Fi are static

    Fe/Ti - Merry (Alpha + Beta)
    Fi/Te - Serious (Gamma + Delta)

    Si/Ne - Judicious (Alpha + Delta)
    Se/Ni - Decisive (Beta + Gamma)

    If the terminology confuses you, drop me a PM and I'll be more than glad to explain it to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetani View Post
    Alpha/Beta share Fe/Ti
    Alpha/Delta share Si/Ne
    Beta/Gamma share Se/Ni
    Gamma/Delta share Fi/Te

    Si - What affects the senses
    Ne - What could be

    Se - What is; what has power
    Ni - What was and what will be

    Fe - Making decisions based on dynamic emotional atmosphere
    Ti - Making decisions based on static internal logic/framework

    Fi - Making decisions based on static internal ethics
    Te - Making decisions based on dynamic external logic; controlling movement of objects in space

    Edit:

    Te, Fe, Si, Ni are dynamic
    Se, Ne, Ti, Fi are static

    Fe/Ti - Merry (Alpha + Beta)
    Fi/Te - Serious (Gamma + Delta)

    Si/Ne - Judicious (Alpha + Delta)
    Se/Ni - Decisive (Beta + Gamma)

    If the terminology confuses you, drop me a PM and I'll be more than glad to explain it to you.
    nice. so using that to answer the OP, the descriptions would be:

    alpha's: merry & judicious, look at what affects the senses and what could be, make decisions based on the dynamic emotional atmosphere and static internal framework.

    beta's: merry & decisive, look at what was, what is, what will be and what has power, make decisions based on dynamic emotional atmosphere and static internal framework.

    gamma's: serious & decisive, look at what was, what is, what will be and what has power, make decisions based on dynamic external objects and static internal ethics.

    delta's: serious & judicious, look at what affects the senses and what could be, make decisions based on dynamic external objects and static internal ethics.


    ok... i've googled it to make sure i'm not having an english failure, but i am not sure what merry/serious are meant to express within this context (maybe too many merry ExFp's are hopping in my head singing Christmas songs).

    (also immature manchild made so much more sense for me then merry and judicious)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    nice. so the descriptions would be:

    alpha's: merry & judicious, look at what affects the senses and what could be, make decisions based on the dynamic emotional atmosphere and static internal framework.

    beta's: merry & decisive, look at what was, what is, what will be and what has power, make decisions based on dynamic emotional atmosphere and static internal framework.

    gamma's: serious & decisive, look at what was, what is, what will be and what has power, make decisions based on dynamic external objects and static internal ethics.

    delta's: serious & judicious, look at what affects the senses and what could be, make decisions based on dynamic external objects and static internal ethics.


    ok... i've googled it to make sure i'm not having an english failure, but i am not sure what merry/serious and judicious/decisive are meant to express within this context (maybe too many merry ExFp's are hopping in my head singing Christmas songs).

    (also immature manchild made so much more sense for me then merry and judicious)
    Yep. :P

    Merry/serious in this context literally means that, whereas for judicious/decisive one is more lax than the other. The former being more go-with-the-flow, the latter being more mobilized.

    Edit: it should be noted that Fe/Fi color the merriness/seriousness of the group, since we know that F functions mainly deal with human interaction.

    That's not to say Ti doms are NOT serious, they are; just that when it comes to group interaction they prefer it to be merry, where they depend on the Fe dom to merry everything up.
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    For everyone's information, this is where I got my definitions:

    http://www.socionics.us/works/semantics.shtml

    I simply paraphrased it to make it more consistent and simpler to understand. Do tell me if you find the words in my paraphrased definitions hard to understand, because I'm a copywriter in training and I need to brush up my language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    just trying to figure this out myself... so if i am getting this right:

    alpha's: Fe/Ti, Ne/Si
    ENTp INTj ESFj ISFp

    beta's: Fe/Ti, Se/Ni
    ESTp ISTj ENFj INFp

    gamma's: Te/Fi, Se/Ni
    ESFp ISFj ENTj INTp

    delta's: Te/Fi, Ne/Si
    ENFp INFj ESTj ISTp

    so i suppose the question becomes:
    what can be said about each function regardless of it's location?
    Yeah..... and remember tyhat for introverts, to translate it into MBTI, you flip the j/p. I'm an INTj in socionics because my dominant function, introverted Thinking, is a judging one.

    I also think the detached nature of Ti is in some way more compatible with Fe broadcasting. The attitude of Fi towards things seems to be the opposit of detached. Fi seems as though it has an attached attitude towards everything... attached used here in the sense of "engaged and invested in". I'm not sure how to describe what Fe does other than in terms of broadcasting, but it's not so diametrically opposed.

    I'm not sure that my default mode is necessarily merry, but it certainly can be, especially when interacting with people. I don't have an issue with acting goofy, really.. and I think these can conflict with Fi's more reverent attitude. Fi might be optimistic, but there's something reverent about it too.

    With regards to creative works, I have no issue with things that combine comedy and tragedy, and don't think there's anything in appropriate at all. I think Fi has issues with that kind of thing.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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