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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Yeah, but ENFP's are more concerned with their feelings than with other's feelings?
    So wrong.

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    Fe and Fi would only really communicate how one reacts to feelings of pain, empathy ect ect. Neither are empathy nor sympathy. IMO trying to attach concrete things to libido orientations seems to be a tad silly. Like saying that Ti is the truth seeking function and Ne is the randomness function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    Fe and Fi would only really communicate how one reacts to feelings of pain, empathy ect ect. Neither are empathy nor sympathy. IMO trying to attach concrete things to libido orientations seems to be a tad silly. Like saying that Ti is the truth seeking function and Ne is the randomness function.
    Hmm…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Hmm…
    So even ExTJ has a soul?
    Jury's still out on that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Jury's still out on that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The question was "Do you feel genuine hurt when there is suffering around you?"

    I would say the answer is "absolutely, yes!" for both ENFPs and ESFPs on a very high frequency of occasions.

    And it's true of people of all types on plenty of occasions as well.

    Hence, it's not an Fi vs Fe thing -- or even a functional thing.

    Any human being can feel genuine hurt when others around them are suffering.

    I'm a fucking INTJ, and for all the talk about how robotic and heartless we are, believe it or not, I feel that shit too.
    I guess the bolded is true, but I don't know about thinking doms. I believe it is generally the feelers that are more concerned when people are suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The question was "Do you feel genuine hurt when there is suffering around you?"

    I would say the answer is "absolutely, yes!" for both ENFPs and ESFPs on a very high frequency of occasions.

    And it's true of people of all types on plenty of occasions as well.

    Hence, it's not an Fi vs Fe thing -- or even a functional thing.

    Any human being can feel genuine hurt when others around them are suffering.

    I'm a fucking INTJ, and for all the talk about how robotic and heartless we are, believe it or not, I feel that shit too.
    It definitely appears that the feeling functions have the most to do with this. What about thinking doms then? How would this work for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    I guess the bolded is true, but I don't know about thinking doms. I believe it is generally the feelers that are more concerned when people are suffering.
    I just read that you once worked at a crab restaurant and couldn't stand the screaming crabs. Wouldn't that make you a feeler since most thinkers wouldn't care about a crab being in pain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I just read that you once worked at a crab restaurant and couldn't stand the screaming crabs. Wouldn't that make you a feeler since most thinkers wouldn't care about a crab being in pain?
    No because Fe can do that too. In fact, if you ever look at any page on Ti<Fe morality, the Ti users tend to think that things are bad if they hurt people. Fi<Te tends to think that things are bad or immoral based on whether they are congruent with their personal belief systems and core values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    No because Fe can do that too. In fact, if you ever look at any page on Ti<Fe morality, the Ti users tend to think that things are bad if they hurt people. Fi<Te tends to think that things are bad or immoral based on whether they are congruent with their personal belief systems and core values.
    Things ARE wrong if they hurt people...
    It is the main indicator of right or wrong for me, with happiness being a tie breaker for multiple neutral options...
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