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    Default Has anyone ever taken a real MBTI?

    If you have, how much more reliable are they compared to the online questionnaires such as Human Metrics?

    I was looking at the prices to take a "real" MBTI, and they're pretty outrageous. What kind of questions do the real ones ask?

    I've mostly identified myself with a certain type by reading such books as Do What You Are and Type Talk. I liked Please Understand Me II at first, but it seems that each type was put into a specific box.

    I also found Please Understand Me II somewhat contradictory, labeling the SP temperament as "artists" rather than placing art into the NF temperament, which I felt was more logical, given that NF is known for creativity and imagination in the traditional sense since traditional art is more about expressing abstract notions from the mind.

    But anyway, what am I better off doing? On nearly all the online MBTI tests I took, I come out as either INTJ or INTP. What would the chances be for coming out as one of those two types on a real MBTI?

    Anyone who has taken the real MBTI please answer.

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    I got to take it for a class.

    Honestly, it didn't seem that dissimilar from the online tests I've seen. A bit longer, perhaps.

    My results are usually INTP, with some slight variations on the strength of the functions. Once, I did test INTJ on an online one, as well.

    The official test gave me a strong INTP.
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    The online ones are less reliable and seem to vary more. Some place me so far from my type it's not even funny.

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    I've done both. I've also taken the official Keirsey test. (Disclaimer: I administer and interpret MBTI, so I have a strong bias.)

    I'm wary of results from free tests. Specifically, I question:
    • Where did this test come from?
    • What are the metrics behind the test's scoring and construction?
    • Is the test valid? Where are the reliability details?


    I can get all these questions answered with official MBTI materials.

    Also, I am uncomfortable with a psychological profile of any sort that does not include some kind of direct contact and validation process. I just can't take that kind of thing seriously. But that's me.
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    Can you fill me in with this "validation process?" I don't exactly understand.

    And what do you mean by interpreting?

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    Yeah, as a young teenager. INTJ.
    Let's do this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    Yeah, as a young teenager. INTJ.
    Oh, that explains much, Meshou-san.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Can you fill me in with this "validation process?" I don't exactly understand.

    And what do you mean by interpreting?
    Interpreting is just the process of scoring the test (I hand score) and making decisions about what the scores say. For instance, if there isn't a clear preference (close to the midline), what might that suggest?

    The validation process is the business of going through the concepts of MBTI and the theory with the client and seeing if the client is comfortable with the results. Some factors can affect reliability of the MBTI tool. Many can be controlled during the administration of the sorter; some, like stress levels, stage of type development, social and cultural biases, etc, are not so easily controlled and have to be accounted for during validation.

    For example, it's fairly well documented that the MBTI (especially prior to Form M) has reduced reliability with African American populations, particularly with the T/F scale. (Reduced meaning, in the mid-80% as opposed to the mid-90% for the overall population.) Subsequently, when working with populations that the MBTI has reduced reliability with, we need to take care to address these areas.

    Make sense? It's a little late, so please ask if I need to clarify more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Oh, that explains much, Meshou-san.
    Hah. I'm about as un-J as can be now.
    Let's do this thing.

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    Hm.... There's more that goes into interpretation. If I am working with a client who appears to have particular preferences, I need to tailor my discussion for that Type. ESTJs have different interests and need different approaches than do ENJP, ISFPs, or INFJs. You get the idea....
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