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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    I think Coriolis is ISTJ.
    That's a hard sell, son. What you got?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    That's a hard sell, son. What you got?
    I have to act like one far more often than I would like. I hope it isn't rubbing off . . .
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I have to act like one far more often than I would like. I hope it isn't rubbing off . . .
    I'm just curious what his reasoning is. @superunknown generally thinks about typology in a way that's refreshingly unorthodox, so his thought process typically interests me as much as his conclusions do.

    In this case, though, the sort of spontaneous massive parallelism I consider to be the hallmark of Ni/Se is so apparent in the way that you think that it's hard to think of you as not NTJ. Dominant Si just has a very different vibe to it imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I have to act like one far more often than I would like. I hope it isn't rubbing off . . .
    Your interactions on the forum seem more Te-dom to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    That's a hard sell, son. What you got?
    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I have to act like one far more often than I would like. I hope it isn't rubbing off . . .
    To start, Ni isn't theoretically (explicitly or otherwise, so far as I can tell) ascribed any favor in comparison to Si for terms of rigidity, as is commonly 'known' throughout the MBTI community. For example, in Socionics, Se in a more Jungian sense is applied to ISTj's while Si is applied to ISTp's, respectively for their intuiting counterparts. Jung views Se as the irrational function with greatest propensity for fresh rationalization of circumstance, the type with greatest bias to the actuality of a situation, the type that 'idealizes' information with the lowest frequency of intent - perceptions many scientists might take up.

    Furthermore, it is stated by Jung that the unconscious attitude of Si is Se of a fair magnitude; while the unconscious attitude of Ni is Se of a primitive, lowly order. I take this to equate that Ni is highly 'entrenched' to its understanding that the introverted intuitor's 'a priori' perception is the end-all be-all of objective nature. For clarification, here is an except from the wiki article on a priori knowledge, something Jung equates to Ni - "you can see that it is true just lying on your couch. You don't have to get up off your couch and go outside and examine the way things are in the physical world. You don't have to do any science." You can see how this approach to reality runs completely countercurrent to Se and Si ideals, and seems to be something to a fair degree easy to spot when in the dominant position of an individual. I don't see it in you.

    @uumlau once mentioned he knows he is an intuitor because he frequently sees the answer - I wish to correct him with the phrasing and say he is an intuitor because he frequently sees an answer. Introverted intuition is the instinctual bridging of gaps in perception, scaffolds erecting highly contingent on the feelings evoked by stimulus, manifesting as a habitual inability to separate perception from the current crowd of thought seized by the mind. Si is not so defined by its intuitive perception; it allows (and prefers) the establishment of constructs as complex and as accurate as need be without sacrificing objectivity in nature. But while the perception of Se is seized on the object alone (say, the fusion of atoms in a star), Si is the arrest of the object's influence of a system (the necessity of stars to harbor life), but still bound by the factoids of objective reality.

    To write out a very simple dichotomy:

    Ni - Philosopher

    Si - Scientist

    I think you fall into the realm of the latter, Coriolis. It really has nothing to do with being a stick-in-the-mud uncompromising-appeal-to-authoritative-establishment SJ.

    I mean, on top of that, there must be more SJ's among the ranks. I think you're a fine candidate.

    Quote Originally Posted by momental View Post
    Your interactions on the forum seem more Te-dom to me.
    This was actually my conclusion the other day, talking about Coriolis' relationship with her 'employers' (or whoever they are). I think she is introverted in a classical sense, favoring the ITJ format over ETJ for the platform of MBTI. In a Jungian sense, yeah, probably a shoo-in Te type.

    I can be skipped, was only seeking to respond publicly to the inquiry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    To start, Ni isn't theoretically (explicitly or otherwise, so far as I can tell) ascribed any favor in comparison to Si for terms of rigidity, as is commonly 'known' throughout the MBTI community. For example, in Socionics, Se in a more Jungian sense is applied to ISTj's while Si is applied to ISTp's, respectively for their intuiting counterparts. Jung views Se as the irrational function with greatest propensity for fresh rationalization of circumstance, the type with greatest bias to the actuality of a situation, the type that 'idealizes' information with the lowest frequency of intent - perceptions many scientists might take up.

    Furthermore, it is stated by Jung that the unconscious attitude of Si is Se of a fair magnitude; while the unconscious attitude of Ni is Se of a primitive, lowly order. I take this to equate that Ni is highly 'entrenched' to its understanding that the introverted intuitor's 'a priori' perception is the end-all be-all of objective nature. For clarification, here is an except from the wiki article on a priori knowledge, something Jung equates to Ni - "you can see that it is true just lying on your couch. You don't have to get up off your couch and go outside and examine the way things are in the physical world. You don't have to do any science." You can see how this approach to reality runs completely countercurrent to Se and Si ideals, and seems to be something to a fair degree easy to spot when in the dominant position of an individual. I don't see it in you.

    @uumlau once mentioned he knows he is an intuitor because he frequently sees the answer - I wish to correct him with the phrasing and say he is an intuitor because he frequently sees an answer. Introverted intuition is the instinctual bridging of gaps in perception, scaffolds erecting highly contingent on the feelings evoked by stimulus, manifesting as a habitual inability to separate perception from the current crowd of thought seized by the mind. Si is not so defined by its intuitive perception; it allows (and prefers) the establishment of constructs as complex and as accurate as need be without sacrificing objectivity in nature. But while the perception of Se is seized on the object alone (say, the fusion of atoms in a star), Si is the arrest of the object's influence of a system (the necessity of stars to harbor life), but still bound by the factoids of objective reality.

    To write out a very simple dichotomy:

    Ni - Philosopher

    Si - Scientist

    I think you fall into the realm of the latter, Coriolis. It really has nothing to do with being a stick-in-the-mud uncompromising-appeal-to-authoritative-establishment SJ.

    I mean, on top of that, there must be more SJ's among the ranks. I think you're a fine candidate.



    This was actually my conclusion the other day, talking about Coriolis' relationship with her 'employers' (or whoever they are). I think she is introverted in a classical sense, favoring the ITJ format over ETJ for the platform of MBTI. In a Jungian sense, yeah, probably a shoo-in Te type.

    I can be skipped, was only seeking to respond publicly to the inquiry.
    Gonna have to unpack this a little more before I make a decision about it. Will have to overcome knee jerk desire to buy you a beer right now.
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    I'm also curious what your assessment of me is, if you wouldn't mind, @superunknown.
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    Yeah, @superunknown, type me too.

    Raptor, INTP. I feel like you should have a positive outlook type somewhere in your tritype but I don't know what it would be other than 7w6 but that conflicts with 5w6 as a core enneatype, so idk.

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    @superunknown your analysis of me would be greatly appreciated .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    I'm also curious what your assessment of me is, if you wouldn't mind, @superunknown.
    Quote Originally Posted by senza tema View Post
    Yeah, @superunknown, type me too.
    Quote Originally Posted by momental View Post
    @superunknown your analysis of me would be greatly appreciated .
    Mod request for a possible thread split, pending Jon's willingness to indulge us, of course.
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