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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I also think there are a number of STP comedians - the ones that focus on visceral and crude humor.
    Jerry Seinfeld is undoubtedly the most STP comic ever to stand up. Compared to Bill Hicks - the man who told sections of his audience to go kill themselves, definitely an intuitor of some variant.

    I don't think you have a very good grasp of extraverted sensation, but then again, most don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    Jerry Seinfeld is undoubtedly the most STP comic ever to stand up. Compared to Bill Hicks - the man who told sections of his audience to go kill themselves, definitely an intuitor of some variant.

    I don't think you have a very good grasp of extraverted sensation, but then again, most don't.
    Yes, it is interesting, because Seinfeld clearly is clearly a Ti-Se user (or some kind of sensor/thinker), the way he observes his sensory surroundings and deconstructs them, but he isn't visceral at all. He's extremely clean.

    Meanwhile, someone super 'N' like Bill Hicks, as you mention, used a lot of violent imagery. Louis CK, clearly an intuitor as well (whether he's N-dom or not, I won't get into) makes a lot of disgusting jokes. I think he has a bit where he beats a man to death with a tire iron and jacks off on his corpse, because the man's bumper sticker said: tell your girlfriend I said 'thanks'.

    While I don't think this is a rule, I suspect people who suppress their sensing functions, tend to express it in grotesque and unusual ways, since it's underdeveloped.

    Edit: As for type and comedy, I find the enneagram helpful for identifying comedians too. I suspect most comedians are typed somewhere within the head triad. They're usually 6's too. All that 6 neurosis is comedy gold. Eddie Murphy is a good example of a 7 comedian, and I would say Demetri Martin is a good example of a 5...but most of the heavyweights are 6's.

    I agree though, ENTP's are a great type for stand-up. Much of comedy is about examining familiar things in unfamiliar ways, making absurd connections, and rapid fire verbalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Yes, it is interesting, because Seinfeld clearly is clearly a Ti-Se user (or some kind of sensor/thinker), the way he observes his sensory surroundings and deconstructs them, but he isn't visceral at all. He's extremely clean.

    Meanwhile, someone super 'N' like Bill Hicks, as you mention, used a lot of violent imagery. Louis CK, clearly an intuitor as well (whether he's N-dom or not, I won't get into) makes a lot of disgusting jokes. I think he has a bit where he beats a man to death with a tire iron and jacks off on his corpse, because the man's bumper sticker said: tell your girlfriend I said 'thanks'.

    While I don't think this is a rule, I suspect people who suppress their sensing functions, tend to express it in grotesque and unusual ways, since it's underdeveloped.
    I usually associate really off-beat humor with Ti-doms. ISTPs can have a creepy sense of humor too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    I usually associate really off-beat humor with Ti-doms. ISTPs can have a creepy sense of humor too.
    I didn't say anything about N's having a monopoly on off-beat or creepy humour.

    I think Zack Galifinakis is an ISFP, and he certainly is off-beat.

    I was simply speculating as to why some N comedians might use more visceral/grotesque imagery in their stand-up.

    Anyway I don't disagree with you, I just don't see how you're replying to me.

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