The subtitle for this thread should be, "aka why are ENTJ descriptions so sucky and useless?"
I've got a pretty good grip on what ESTJs are like but I don't entirely understand how they differ from ENTJs. IMO most descriptions for ENTJs are incredibly vague and basically make them sound like little more than extra-bossy ESTJs. I think I can mostly tell the difference when I meet one of these types (or in fictional characters) but I couldn't exactly define what factors I'm going on. I've also wondered lately if I've mistyped someone I know. I need more in-depth definitions to clarify this murky area.
I basically gather ENTJs:
- are more future-oriented
- are more anticipatory rather than reactive
- make decisions based on more instinctive interpretations of situations
- are more comprehensive strategists
- are (almost) always the villain in the story (seriously, it's hard to come up with a list of non-villainous ENTJ fictional characters )
But beyond that the descriptions don't sound very distinct from ESTJ. ESTJs are also great leaders and co-ordinators; they're also just as bold and resourceful. ESTJs seem to be more preservers of order and justice, rather than iconoclasts that ENTJs appear to be. But then, all the ESTJs I've known have been troublemakers at some point (they seem to make very rebellious teenagers), they regularly question authority and are always attempting to dismantle and overhaul the systems/structures they function within. ESTJs not just the stick-in-the-muds they're often made out to be.
-If a ENTJ isn't running a multi-national corporation or twirling his moustache and laughing maniacally, what do they look like (in everyday life)? What are their defining characteristics?
-What makes a ESTJ distinct from a ENTJ beyond the typical, bland, "they're more traditional and conservative" description? What are their defining characteristics?
- What are the comparative strengths and weaknesses of each type?
And, just for the EXTJs:
- Are you generally satisfied with the descriptions of your type or do you find them lacking?
- What characteristics do you think should be better put across?
- Which fictional character do you think exemplifies your type? Or which one do you particularly like and admire?