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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    I think it's very situation-dependent. It's just that with introverts they generally have to have some reason to want to engage in talking, whereas at least ExxP extraverts get bored with situations that aren't externally stimulating enough so we talk to create/encourage new external stimuli, and ExxJs will tend to talk to assert themselves on their environments.

    Of the introverts I personally know, I think the IxFPs tend to be the quietest, at least in the situations that we have been in together. That's not an objective assertion, though, just subjective experience to throw into the observation pot. It seems that Js and Ts more often have reasons to want to speak - either to structure / organize (J) or to encourage use of logic (T) - so they tend to pipe up more. And FJs do share the gift of Fe social smoothing via talking. IxFP talking seems more internally-prompted in general.
    For me its boredom. I'll talk about any random subject just to break up the monotony and make time go by faster. While I do enjoy silence on occasion... If it's silent all the time I'll go bat shit crazy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    For me its boredom. I'll talk about any random subject just to break up the monotony and make time go by faster. While I do enjoy silence on occasion... If it's silent all the time I'll go bat shit crazy.
    ! I think my ISTP brother does that too. He'll even start talking shit to stir things up, because he's bored. Maybe it's a P thing in general - probably more for ISxPs since you guys prefer the sensory stimuli, whereas the INxPs are probably online looking at anime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    For me its boredom. I'll talk about any random subject just to break up the monotony and make time go by faster. While I do enjoy silence on occasion... If it's silent all the time I'll go bat shit crazy.
    I can do that. Often it is extra stimulation too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Yeah, the strong silent type. We could argue for ISTx being this.

    "Hi I reject Fe and have absolutely nothing to say to other people."

    The Driver was so hot. I swear though he seemed to me to be a fictional cross between ISTP and ISTJ. He showed mostly Ti/Se in his professional skills and so forth, but his morality seemed very tertiary Fi, like he had this real soft spot for this woman he couldn't even be with; I would think an ISTP would find that fruitless and impractical, while an ISTJ would find it honorable, even if he didn't get laid as a result.

    I reject your notion that ISTP's can't have moral imperatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    I reject your notion that ISTP's can't have moral imperatives.
    Agreed. The lone gunslinger; the ronin samurai. This is the crux of the fictional ISTP.
    Silent, strong, stoic, honorable. Wanders the world alone, but will take up arms to protect the weak.

    As The Driver proved: Inferior Fe ain't something bad guys wanna mess with.

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    lol.. I might have to retype. I'd like to protect the weak.. and I have.. but if things are stressful, I end up berating them. "Move you idiot!" "Damnit.. you're not crying, are you?" etc..

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    Whichever one ate least least amount of beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    lol.. I might have to retype. I'd like to protect the weak.. and I have.. but if things are stressful, I end up berating them. "Move you idiot!" "Damnit.. you're not crying, are you?" etc..
    The keyword is "fictional". The "lone-wandering samurai" is a popular archetype throughout cultures.
    Such characters don't really exist in real life.

    A real life ISTP would probably say: "Damaged goods--walking this way."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    The keyword is "fictional". The "lone-wandering samurai" is a popular archetype throughout cultures.
    Such characters don't really exist in real life.

    A real life ISTP would probably say: "Damaged goods--walking this way."
    Thank you! For once we agree.

    I think a lot of fictional motion picture archetypes are actually kind of ISTJP-ish.

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