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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    NJ's tend to be very clean and orderly
    that is patently untrue
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    Still waiting for something that is actually sensing-related......

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    that is patently untrue
    Yeah usually they are smelly and unwashed.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    true. but we're talking about psychology, not physiology.
    We are....but I don't see why we should trump reason with unproven speculation, especially when it comes to such a widespread series of traits.

    Basically I find it unsatisfying to palm off such skills as being part of something as intangible as cognitive function theory. Especially when better and more empirically provable answers already exist.

    For example i'll admit i'm not much of a one for details that don't interest me, in fact only my job keeps me in check with regards to paying attention to more immediate matters, this is a learned series of traits, as a consequence my ability at memorising certain things has risen by conscious application in an appropriate arena that demands it.

    I could be Si dominant, but that has less impact on memory than people realise, in fact Si is by definition about a very specific individual reality, (individual to the extreme in fact based on which Si dom it is), that often masquerades as a series of objective observations and requirements.

    What Si dominants could be speculated to memorise are details that are important to THAT reality they hold in their heads from their subjective interpretations of their own sensory impressions, not details in general.

    So a particular ISJ could be very good at rote memory of general details given the experience in their life, but a different ISJ may not be.

    Essentially specific memory of general details isn't how it works based on it's description. Although this is perhaps just arguing semantics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    Believe it or not neither do I. I drew my criticisms of sensors primarily from a selection I personally encountered and from that determined that there is a likelihood the whole population follows similar guidelines. I would not be surprised if there were anomalies to the rule.

    I hope you aren't asserting that those in this thread with criticisms against sensors merely fear them and that their reasons for disliking them are just a smokescreen. Perhaps if they do fear them it is because they fear potential brain death?
    I don't want people to hate what they do not understand. The thread title implies there is a hostility toward sensors. And to come in and see a lot of condescending remarks is a mark of ignorance or insecurity.

    why should anyone "fear" potential brain death? If that's the case, put up a wall and stop talking to them. If they're your boss, either learn to understand and deal with it or work somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    that is patently untrue
    what about it specifically? I said they "tend" to. That's mostly based off of my personal experience.

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    Well, going off of a select few posts on the forum, I'm going to go with:

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    This thread proves that both Sensosluts and iNtuitards are equally as ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    Believe it or not neither do I. I drew my criticisms of sensors primarily from a selection I personally encountered and from that determined that there is a likelihood the whole population follows similar guidelines. I would not be surprised if there were anomalies to the rule.

    I hope you aren't asserting that those in this thread with criticisms against sensors merely fear them and that their reasons for disliking them are just a smokescreen. Perhaps if they do fear them it is because they fear potential brain death?
    Fundamental attribution error
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetani View Post
    This thread proves that both Sensosluts and iNtuitards are equally as ignorant.
    I really hate the whole bias on how intuitive people are "smarter" it just goes against what personality theory is all about to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    The irony... it's... so strong.
    I don't get it? Unless the two computer lines worth of text that I wrote count as "excrutiating detail?"
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