The phenomenon of NTs losing their cool is hardly limited to or even best exemplified by the women of those types. Of course, losing your cool implies you had it to begin with.
Sorry, no. But it seemed straightforward on first reading. What did I miss?
Oh but they are so entertaining to read. Don't worry - I'm not joining the ESTJ-hate. I'm equally amused reading similar stuff about my own type. I think it is the blatant typism and illogic of it all.
And I'll repost this:
If the effect you describe is not something best exemplified by these women NTs, to what purpose did you single them out? Was similar behavior not observed in men NTs, or in women of other types? Was it particularly egregious, amusing, or otherwise noteworthy in women NTs? The remark was never clear in the original context.
Clearly I did. If your goal was simply to show that NTs can fly off the handle like anyone else, why mention specifically women? Do women NTs fly off the handle more than men, or less than men, or in a way that is notably different? I'm just curious as to why you mentioned gender at all, since it didn't seem relevant to the original exchange between TGO and Greenfairy.
Specifying female NTs is relevant only if you see the behavior of female NTs as significantly different from that of male NTs. Since the focus here seemed on NT behavior in general (e.g. they can lose their cool, too, whether male or female) the distinction seemed irrelevant. In other words, adding the word "female" was not necessary for the point you were trying to make, and suggested another dimension to your comment that wasn't really there.
If TGO was implying you lose your cool because you are female, and therefore cannot be an NT, this is very close to saying that women can't be NTs. (Yes, there are fewer female NTs than male, but that is true of all T types). Or, did he mean that female NTs lose their cool more than males? Which assertion was the five years of female NT behavior referenced by Jaguar supposed to support (or contradict)?
It is equally unrealistic to see only positive in any type. There certainly are negative aspects to ESTJs, the key is to remember that this is true of every type.
Right; it's just potentialities for behavior and traits based on underlying patterns, like Enneagram or astrology. People can do opposite things for the same sorts of reasons, based on common psychological dispositions. I'm probably not explaining it well, but it does make sense in my head.
