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    Default How to differentiate the four TP types?

    Discuss and explain the differences and common points between theses 4 types.

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    ISTP: carver, steadfast, empirical
    ESTP: materialistic, active, epicurian
    INTP: metaphysician, visionnary, ascetic
    ENTP: speculator, explorer, entrepreneur

    I can relate on every of theses adjectives, and relate on the descriptions of each of theses types, so I don't really know where I fit.
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    If I had to guess, I'd go with your current self-typing of ESTP>

    And what do you exactly mean by "carver" for ISTP? Carving tools for example? Or something else entirely?
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    Figuring out if you are an S or N is more important to home in on the right personality than is the E or I.

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    INTP: metaphysician, visionnary, ascetic
    I don't see you as that; well, I guess it's possible, since you understand philosopher's and their theories well enough to type them pretty accurately, but overall, you seem a bit more 'explorative' and 'active', so try to choose between the 2 ETPs rather than the 4 TPs.

    My vote though goes to your own initial inclination, ESTP (if you can type famous figures with such precision, you probably know your own type too).

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    Steadfast seems more like STJ to me. I don't see any percievers stand out that way. I think both ITPs are steadfast "defensively" maybe. But I'm not steadfast in the offensive sense. I'll change course or suddenly see where things fail, ahead of time. I think it's dumb to push through things out of determination, or just because I started it. I may even extend the steadfast thing to ISFJs. They would be steadfast in relationships, while I would not. For example, I would break a relationship as long as it's present conditons (Se) worked. ISFJ would hold on longer or try to fix a dysfunctional situation. I've quit jobs with the sudden (Ni?) realization of seeing all the undesirable ways my life would develop if I stayed. I've stopped midway in fights, and picked the opponent up, realizing we'd kill each other or he isn't really that bad.

    Anyways..Probably not relevant. You seem more intuitive to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    And what do you exactly mean by "carver" for ISTP? Carving tools for example? Or something else entirely?
    Both. It means being very concerned with detail, and be persistent at scupting thing with thoroughness and preciseness until get the wished wanted result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Steadfast seems more like STJ to me. I don't see any percievers stand out that way. I think both ITPs are steadfast "defensively" maybe. But I'm not steadfast in the offensive sense. I'll change course or suddenly see where things fail, ahead of time. I think it's dumb to push through things out of determination, or just because I started it. I may even extend the steadfast thing to ISFJs. They would be steadfast in relationships, while I would not. For example, I would break a relationship as long as it's present conditons (Se) worked. ISFJ would hold on longer or try to fix a dysfunctional situation. I've quit jobs with the sudden (Ni?) realization of seeing all the undesirable ways my life would develop if I stayed. I've stopped midway in fights, and picked the opponent up, realizing we'd kill each other or he isn't really that bad.
    "Tenacious" or "persisitent" perhaps are words which fits better to ISTPs. And more than for the other TP types, who are more volatile and scattered.

    You seem more intuitive to me.
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Both. It means being very concerned with detail, and be persistent at scupting thing with thoroughness and preciseness until get the wished wanted result.
    Sounds boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Sounds boring.
    I know. But it's something that we can frequently see with ISTPs, like Stanley Kubrick or Steve Jobs for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I know. But it's something that we can frequently see with ISTPs, like Stanley Kubrick or Steve Jobs for example.
    I can't say I know about either one to comment much. I'll just take it into the abstract. There's more adaptability and "volatility" in Beren's description, for example.

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