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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku
    an ability to see you in relation to the world and the world in relation to you.
    Well you have a particularly Ni definition of "grounded" then, since you're calling "grounded" the ability to see through two opposing perspectives. If that's "grounded" then your grounded types are INFJ, INTJ, ENFJ, and ENTJ.

    The Oxford English Dictionary defines "grounded" as "well balanced and sensible", which would describe any healthy Sensor or Thinker.

    A few things on Sensors.

    ESFPs - They navigate life to maximize enjoyment and have a knack for getting themselves into opportunities.
    ESTPs - Also opportunists who utilize the flow of life. They tend to live intensely and find joy in the rush.
    ISTJs - Steady, calm, loyal people. They get satisfaction from doing a good job and contributing in a positive way.
    ISFJs - They get satisfaction from the small pleasures of life and by protecting and supporting those they love.

    What I don't understand is why these types are a bad thing to be in your mind. In my opinion, S doms are some of the most grounded in that they are the most aware that we ought to enjoy and experience the world moment by moment, and make the most of what we have. So many Ns are dissatisfied in life and are always looking for another pasture, while Ss are living life to the fullest with what they have. It's been ground into our N heads to look beyond our boxes, but the fact is that a huge amount of our life is going to be spent inside the box - Sensors get that, and don't necessarily like it, but they work with it. They learn to navigate and enjoy it (Se) or they work to improve it and protect the people in it (Si). I think most Ns could learn a lot from them.

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    ^Yes.

    Sensors and thinkers can decide in 2 seconds what it might take me 12 hours to come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    ^Yes.

    Sensors and thinkers can decide in 2 seconds what it might take me 12 hours to come to.
    I can intuitively pick up things fast, but I can't make decisions fast. I have to analyze every angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku View Post
    I guess my ennea combo is to blame which make me unusual infj, apart from the theoretically blabbery stereotypical infj quality that i too poses.
    Many ennea theories crossed with MBTI have put 9w1 INFJ's as being one of the most common combinations. Ask @BlackCat

    But on another note.... stop it, you're making Ni look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post

    But on another note.... stop it, you're making Ni look bad.
    This.
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    The funny thing is, he's using Ni defensively, in the same way ISPs do when they cast a suspicious eye on the external world. He's closer to sensors than he thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    The funny thing is, he's using Ni defensively, in the same way ISPs do when they cast a suspicious eye on the external world. He's closer to sensors than he thinks
    Sensorian-speak comes so naturally to you!!
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    Felix Baumgartner is more grounded than this dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    The Oxford English Dictionary defines "grounded" as "well balanced and sensible", which would describe any healthy Sensor or Thinker.
    Intuitives and Feelers can't be well-balanced or sensible? (OP aside). Feeling is surely more grounded than thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Intuitives and Feelers can't be well-balanced or sensible? (OP aside). Feeling is surely more grounded than thinking?
    Well, certainly they can be, but one could also be a healthy Intuitive or Feeler without being sensible in the general sense of the term, I believe. Certainly one can be a healthy NF and not really "sensible". I usually relate "sensible" to practicality and rationality. That could be my own linguistic bias, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Well, certainly they can be, but one could also be a healthy Intuitive or Feeler without being sensible in the general sense of the term, I believe. Certainly one can be a healthy NF and not really "sensible". I usually relate "sensible" to practicality and rationality. That could be my own linguistic bias, though.
    I Agree however S or T types can also be guilty of being irrational in emotional situations. Not from the standpoint of logical thinking but in response to emotion. Like telling an NF they are being overemotional as if that's not going to make the situation even worse. It would make sense to respond with the validation of emotion but they can miss that. When trying to persuade someone using or validating emotions might make the other person more receptive instead of logically explaining why you are right. Sometimes that's what it takes. An aspect of being sensible is determining what action in a given situation would yield the most desirable result. sometimes that requires the use of logic other times emotion. I think any healthy person is sensible regardless of type. The MBTI system is based on balance J and P, I and E, T and F ,N and S. We can achieve balance within ourselves and with the people around us making us all grounded and sensible respectively. (Not that you implied otherwise )
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