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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    Call me naive maybe, but I don't believe other types don't have good ideas, I just think they aren't as likely to make a run for their ideas.
    I keep telling you; carrots that taste like chocolate oranges and chocolate oranges that taste like carrots will never sell!
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    Oh...this is about business. Not painting or writing or that sort of creativity. It's about profit margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    Oh...this is about business. Not painting or writing or that sort of creativity. It's about profit margin.
    i think thats what the "(usefully)" on the topic title was referring to
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    i think thats what the "(usefully)" on the topic title was referring to
    That's not how I define that word...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    That's not how I define that word...
    me neither, but sometimes you can use alternative definitions based on the situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    Call me naive maybe, but I don't believe other types don't have good ideas, I just think they aren't as likely to make a run for their ideas.
    The real question is, would you change your name to Naive. It kinda sounds like Mane. Not a big change. Be reasonable
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    The real question is, would you change your name to Naive. It kinda sounds like Mane. Not a big change. Be reasonable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    Oh...this is about business. Not painting or writing or that sort of creativity. It's about profit margin.
    Clicked on the link and it referred to "product development", but didn't refer to what products. The general term to mean anything from new pharmaceuticals to another style of Barbie, to new architectural designs. It is about creativity, but ultimately beholden to business, so not what the "artisan" would tend towards, I suspect.
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    It came down to Profit?

    At the end of the day it is not the usefulness of the product that matters it is how people perceive it. So no matter how brilliant the product is if it isn't marketed correctly it would not be perceived the way it was intended to be. Therefore it would have little influence on sales/profits.

    So I would say when it comes to profit what matters mostly is marketing than creativity. of course marketing itself is correlated to creativity. But then again one could argue that marketing is mostly building trust. More what is seen/heard is believed the easier it is to access the mind and influence it.

    To sum if up, to be the best marketeer one has to find creative ways to build trust.

    *Feels uncreative and stiff*

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    I would say that marketing isn't so much about building trust as it is appealing to their needs and convincing the customer that its something they want or something they need to buy. Fe is perfect for that task, see "snake oil salesman."

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