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    Default Do people try to seem iNtuitive online?

    I think this forum is ok, there are some other MBTI forums where this is very common, though I suppose this could happen here as well. In any case, do you think that some people on having put their type as xNxx, try to "earn" the title in each of their posts?


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    I wonder of this.


    If the sensor to intuit ratio is 3:1, why is that not indicative in online statistics? I think most would theorize sensors are not interested in such a subjective science, instead opting for lolcat videos.


    I think people prefer to type themselves intuitive because common descriptions boil down to 'you value your thoughts' vs 'you prefer external confirmation of facts'. It is blatant most would choose the former when in reality preferring the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    I wonder of this.


    If the sensor to intuit ratio is 3:1, why is that not indicative in online statistics? I think most would theorize sensors are not interested in such a subjective science, instead opting for lolcat videos.


    I think people prefer to type themselves intuitive because common descriptions boil down to 'you value your thoughts' vs 'you prefer external confirmation of facts'. It is blatant most would choose the former when in reality preferring the latter.
    Lets not forget the obvious point about intelligence either.

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    This is something ive often thought about, especially in relation to myself. Mainly because I only want to put forth what I see, but the problem is that: Is there a subtle influence to embellish what I see so as to live up to an ideal?

    I wonder if I am guilty of it or not. Probably both at the same time, although ive long since past any stage of wanting to appear anything but what I could loosely call my inherency of mind.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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    If people try to fake it as intuitives, I think that is pretty sad. I can't personally see any self respecting SP pretending to be an N. We are too busy having fun...

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    How does one fake seeming N exactly? If you mean they lie about how they live their life so their lives seem more in line with more stereotypically N lives (e.g. "ZOMG I live inside teh head!" "ZOMG I think aboot philosophy liek all the time rofl!" "ZOMG I drew a picture lol i'm a creativ N lolol" etc.) then that doesn't count (not saying the above examples are anything other than caricatures and that any sensors sound like that.) Is there a stereotypical way for N's to live their lives? Lifestyles which individuals N's and S's can vary greatly from the next. IMO N cannot be faked or it would certainly be difficult to do so. Sensor types would not work their way through online in the same way as N's would, e.g. their forum posts would not be engineered towards being connected as one body to the same degree an N's would. They would focus much more on the individual points mentioned in a post than it as one whole. If that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    How does one fake seeming N exactly? If you mean they lie about how they live their life so their lives seem more in line with more stereotypically N lives (e.g. "ZOMG I live inside teh head!" "ZOMG I think aboot philosophy liek all the time rofl!" "ZOMG I drew a picture lol i'm a creativ N lolol" etc.) then that doesn't count (not saying the above examples are anything other than caricatures and that any sensors sound like that.) Is there a stereotypical way for N's to live their lives? Lifestyles which individuals N's and S's can vary greatly from the next. IMO N cannot be faked or it would certainly be difficult to do so. Sensor types would not work their way through online in the same way as N's would, e.g. their forum posts would not be engineered towards being connected as one body to the same degree an N's would. They would focus much more on the individual points mentioned in a post than it as one whole. If that makes sense.
    Everything you say is true, but you are not seeing the forest for the trees.

    We all know that the common perception of iNtuitives is as intellectual, abstract, uninterested in banalities.

    Obviously life does not live up to stereotypes, I am talking about people trying to live up to stereotypes mistakenly.

    Finally, and this goes for @jontherobot and @lauranna as well: I didn't exactly say people fake being N's, I said they may try to seem more iNtuitive.

    I am pretty sure I am iNtuitive, but I don't really try to sound like a genius with each post (though it comes naturally).

    But if I DID try to quote Einstein at you in every post, then I would be TRYING to sound like one. Regardless of the fact that a.) that I am one, and b.) that isn't what one really sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    Everything you say is true, but you are not seeing the forest for the trees.

    We all know that the common perception of iNtuitives is as intellectual, abstract, uninterested in banalities.

    Obviously life does not live up to stereotypes, I am talking about people trying to live up to stereotypes mistakenly.
    Oh I see. I'm uncertain how to answer your response without mentioning my previous points (and without sounding like an idiot.) I hope this one is a better answer. Yes I do think people try and live up to the stereotypes mentioned but for reasons unrelated to the MBTI. Deep down most people do not want to be considered stupid: being "intellectual, abstract, uninterested in banalities" have come to be associated with higher intelligence in society. "Creative and imaginative" too are also admired. They want to create an illusion (they do this partially consciously and partially unconsciously) that they are all the above in the hope that it would be realised in reality and become true. I admit I too do this to a degree (make myself seem more intelligent than I am) even though I truly believe myself N (from years of cognitive function theory study.)

    The problem is that whilst the N is more associated with these coveted traits than S types they aren't synonymous with being N. Are people trying to seem more N online or just smarter to quell their own insecurities?

    Hope this answer was better.

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    Sometimes I pull off sick sick reads. Like I can hear/read a little bit (as little as 1 sentence) of what someone's saying about their lives/feelings/experiences/beliefs and I know dead-on exactly where they're at and what they need. I feel like I deserve a parade when that happens. I'm INTJ. I'm not supposed to be able to do that And then I try to do it again. And again. But it's hit and miss

    I actually have seen some feeler types insist that they have pretty strong Ti/Te skillz. But then I look at their reasoning patterns and they tend to verbalize things that are so obvious to me that I wouldn't imagine they even need to be verbalized, and they think that's "really good use of logic". Faaaccee-paaalllmm. Y u no see u sux?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    Oh I see. I'm uncertain how to answer your response without mentioning my previous points (and without sounding like an idiot.) I hope this one is a better answer. Yes I do think people try and live up to the stereotypes mentioned but for reasons unrelated to the MBTI. Deep down most people do not want to be considered stupid: being "intellectual, abstract, uninterested in banalities" have come to be associated with higher intelligence in society. "Creative and imaginative" too are also admired. They want to create an illusion (they do this partially consciously and partially unconsciously) that they are all the above in the hope that it would be realised in reality and become true. I admit I too do this to a degree (make myself seem more intelligent than I am) even though I truly believe myself N (from years of cognitive function theory study.)

    The problem is that whilst the N is more associated with these coveted traits than S types they aren't synonymous with being N. Are people trying to seem more N online or just smarter to quell their own insecurities?

    Hope this answer was better.
    I always think to myself that if I cared to be good at something, then I would put the effort in to be good at it. Like, I could be outgoing and not sit in front of a computer screen all day long. And sometimes I will actually go out and socialize a lot. But then I realized that I don't really like doing that. I'd rather type responses to people in text on the internets. Like such, like such. I could be really athletic, and have good physical sensing skillz (which I do not), but I only blame myself for not putting in the time to do that, therefore not being good at it. It's all in my hands, and I only have myself to blame or credit. I'm much better with feelings now, myself and others', because I work hard at it. I can't draw worth a shit, but some people are really good at it, but it's my own fault I don't put the time in to learn and practice.

    I never feel the need to pretend to be another type, because I can actually be more like them anytime I want, given that I'm willing to invest the time and energy in developing myself in that direction. Don't get me wrong, I would never give up my wonderful INTJ talents, but I seriously admire sensors who can do things I will never be able to do, to the level that they can do it. I'll never beat them in video games. Sure, I can practice really hard and become pretty darn good, but some super sensor who works just as hard is still going to slap me silly. Same thing with athletics. Same thing with style, and design. Same thing with physical sensing. If you're a sensor, and you have an extremely acute awareness of your physical surroundings at all times, know that most people aren't like that. Imagine having all your senses dulled by like a half. Welcome to my world. I can't really even enjoy the beauty of nature. It kinda goes right over my head. I can't sing or dance as well as them. I can't think as fast, or react as quickly. So I seriously admire a lot of the things that sensors can do that I can't, and won't ever be able to at their level.

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    I think most just strive to sound intelligent, let alone intuitive.

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