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    you have too much Fe to be INTP. your emotions show noticeably in your facial expressions and vocal patterns and you're frequently thinking about other's needs and putting them before your own. not INTP
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    I've been visualizing the relations between different types within the temperaments and I've made these diagrams.

    All the temperaments



    Within the NT temperament



    Still trying to figure all this out in my head.

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    It's basically summed up that J/P will orient the same functions in opposite ways, so if you have NTSF, P tells you the perception N is extraverted. It's also the dominant, so E. The auxiliary judgment (T) is introverted. Hence, ENTP. But to change it to a J, then Judgment (T) is extraverted. Since it's also auxiliary, then the dominant perception (N) is introverted, thus I. Hence, INTJ.
    INTP and ENTJ are the same thing, but with N and T changing position (And S and F as well).

    So ENTP/INTJ have in common the NTSF order,
    while INTP and ENTJ are TNSF.
    ENTP and ENTJ have in common just the attitudes: dominant e and auxiliary i (and by extension, tertiary and inferior repeat e, i)
    INTP and INTJ have in common ieie
    ENTP and INTP have in common, of course, function and attitude combinations rather than any order: Ti and Ne
    ENTJ and INTJ are Te and Ni.
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    You guys ever thought about turning away from psychology and making a career in math ?
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    @entropie I plan to attend college to pursue a career in electrical computer engineering, specializing in digital image processing. It's a highly mathematical field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    It's basically summed up that J/P will orient the same functions in opposite ways, so if you have NTSF, P tells you the perception N is extraverted. It's also the dominant, so E. The auxiliary judgment (T) is introverted. Hence, ENTP. But to change it to a J, then Judgment (T) is extraverted. Since it's also auxiliary, then the dominant perception (N) is introverted, thus I. Hence, INTJ.
    INTP and ENTJ are the same thing, but with N and T changing position (And S and F as well).

    So ENTP/INTJ have in common the NTSF order,
    while INTP and ENTJ are TNSF.
    ENTP and ENTJ have in common just the attitudes: dominant e and auxiliary i (and by extension, tertiary and inferior repeat e, i)
    INTP and INTJ have in common ieie
    ENTP and INTP have in common, of course, function and attitude combinations rather than any order: Ti and Ne
    ENTJ and INTJ are Te and Ni.
    Very enlightening, I intend to read your pages on MBTI and the like later when I feel more up to it.

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    Here's the start of something I like to call multi-type theory. I just don't know where to go with it yet.

    As you can see, not only are there four types in each group related by their functions, but both groups are opposing. The theory I have is one that the order of the functions is flexible, although there is a type that is more apt to reveal itself depending on certain external factors. The easiest to relate to of the three shadow types is the one with the path of least resistance, that is to say, the one that uses the same first two functions but of a different dominance. According to match making theory in socionics I think the easiest shadow type to bring out in yourself would most likely be the one which shares your tertiary function as a dominant function. So an ENTP would probably most likely identify with INTPs while displaying ESFJ traits.

    This theory is mostly based on own self analysis and the analysis of my family.

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    Some more cerebral diarrhea.

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