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    Thanks for all the input so far, guys. I'm too tired to get into whether or not I agree with specific points. But please keep it coming if you're so inclined.

    A thought; when friends pull out their phones and start enthusiastically showing me colour samples for their carpets or how the new paint on the wall contrasts with the old paint - I mean, really getting into detail about it, while I nod and smile and ask polite questions - I tend to lean towards thinking that they are Sensors. But I could be wrong.
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    ^ Haha I am totally that person with the paint and the carpet and the colors. I LOVE COLORS. I collect paint sample cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    ^ Haha I am totally that person with the paint and the carpet and the colors. I LOVE COLORS. I collect paint sample cards.
    Hmm...well, that might put paid to that theory then. It was just a theory. I'm sure SOME of the people who do that are Sensors.

    I'm not into the whole colour samples thing, at all...in fact, I wish I was a little less clueless about stuff like interior decorating. But I like watching people who are enthused about things, even if it's not what I'm enthused about, so it's all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Ne also has characteristic telltale signs when it's being used.
    This may be true...but what I notice most often on this site (and other personality sites) is merely if the individual is 'quirky' or 'idiosyncratic' or 'talks about crazy/silly things'...it's like 'Zomg! You're such an Ne dom!' <--- And that's just not how it works (or at least in my mind that is not the best way to ascertain Ne in the dom or aux position).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Hmm...well, that might put paid to that theory then. It was just a theory. I'm sure SOME of the people who do that are Sensors.

    I'm not into the whole colour samples thing, at all...in fact, I wish I was a little less clueless about stuff like interior decorating. But I like watching people who are enthused about things, even if it's not what I'm enthused about, so it's all good
    I'm sure some of them are Sensors too! Sorry to knock your theory off the bat... ... my friends and family have always made a good bit of fun of me about that, though...

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    I think it is hard to tell unless they are more extreme toward one or the other. A lot of people are pretty balanced. And if a person is pretty balanced, does it matter if they are slightly S or slightly N? Probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    So what do you look for when determining if someone is an Si user or Ni user (possibly stupid question but I don't care)? It's an introverted function and both are, as you put it 'abstract perceiving functions,' so it's not as apparent as their extroverted counter parts.
    Not a stupid question at all, but not one with an easy answer. I find it easiest to tell under stress. Ni users at their worst can have this kind of chaotic catastrophizing about their thoughts, it's like this "everything could go wrong in all these absurd ways" and it can be hard for me to understand where they get those things from. I mean, I'm a six. I understand what it's like to worry about stuff and think it could go wrong (and to want to be prepared). But I like to think my views on what could go wrong are kind of realistic...ish. I guess it's like so many other typology related things: it's easiest to tell on the outside what we are when we're at our most vulnerable. I will say that I think it's easy to confuse Ni and Si doms, and I think it's easy for them to confuse themselves. They're outwardly very close, and the inward processes are poorly described in most texts that I've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    ^ Haha I am totally that person with the paint and the carpet and the colors. I LOVE COLORS. I collect paint sample cards.
    LOL! And by contrast, even though I studied advertising for years, have a good grasp of color theory, and even at one time considered myself an aspiring artist, I rarely think about anything color-related in my environment, shy of "oh no my daughter spilled chocolate almond milk on the carpet."

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Here is where I begin to disagree. On the one hand, I agree that it can be difficult. As @Lady X said, it can be especially hard with balanced types. However, I think there are a combination of techniques you can apply. Rather than say someone is an S or N, I tend to focus on either a temperament (NF, NT, SJ, SP) with some combination of looking at functions and how a person is communicating (orally or in writing) to make a guess. Sometimes you can just tell someone is an SJ or an SP. It's obvious. I have generally found that the most effective way to guess a person's type is by looking at functions. Once you get to know someone, it can appear that they consistently seem to use Si, for example. A lot of times, you can tell people who seem to prefer Fe over Fi. Te can also be extremely obvious as can the line of thinking a person who prefers Ti is using. Ne also has characteristic telltale signs when it's being used. So by pulling the clues together, you can come up with a guess. For me personally, Ni is the hardest one to tell.
    I agree to an extent about the temperaments, but I think they're grouped wrong. I often think that NT and NF should be traded out for NP and NJ, to isolate Ni and Ne users the way Si and Se users are with SP and SJ. If we're going to boil it down the way Keirsey wanted to, I think we should stick with the perceiving function being consistent. But then, there's the whole issue of introversion and extraversion... man I can't stand Keirsey.

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    Keirsey doesn't believe in the functions, so that's moot with him. (There's a person named Janet Germane who supports the NP and NJ groups. Those are actually part of the Interaction Styles when factored with E/I, as are ST/SF).
    Keirsey's temperaments are simply those that match Plato's four kinds of men, and indirectly through those, the classic temperaments.

    (BTW, I can tall an N when they can have a conversation with me about deeply conceptual stuff like this. I've always had problems striking up good discussions with S's).
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