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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    MacGuffin. He has an N bias in the way I described. I thought of him because of my type thread and him saying istp, or intp the best type. He just feels his N rocks and why not? It makes perfect sense to have a bias towards yourself.
    One person cannot affect the graph. But you sound as if this N-bias is a widespread phenomenon. They were using the same kind of argument on the IQ poll thread where the 132-145 category was so high.

    There are certain ways to criticize a poll. Researchers can be biased, and poll questions can be biased. But there are also known degrees of uncertainty in any poll study. It's necessary to establish what those degrees are, and just saying people are biased is not the right way to go about it because we all know this already.

    By the way, I am a long-time Intuitive with a well-established IQ of 135 based on both online and offline testing, so that cancels out the MacGuffin bias. I'm not a pure intuitive, I'm just saying that I am more intuitive than sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    By the way, I am a long-time Intuitive with a well-established IQ of 135 based on both online and offline testing, so that cancels out the MacGuffin bias. I'm not a pure intuitive, I'm just saying that I am more intuitive than sensor.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Are you trying to earn plonk status from me with your incessant one-liners and shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I didn't say they weren't related.
    Why did you say You don't need the latter to explain the former then? Are you saying that an individual could be a racist regardless of how many of the same race were around him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Are you trying to earn plonk status from me with your incessant one-liners and shit?
    Don't know what that is.
    Don't care.
    Think your posts have been nonsensical and you're giving Ns/INTPs a bad name by representing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Don't know what that is.
    Don't care.
    Think your posts have been nonsensical and you're giving Ns/INTPs a bad name by representing them.
    I'll take that as a "yes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Why did you say You don't need the latter to explain the former then? Are you saying that an individual could be a racist regardless of how many of the same race were around him?
    Oh Jesus. No.
    I said it because it's true.

    This thread is about why there are a disproportionate # of Ns here.
    While it may be true that there is an N bias, it is not a cause of that phenomenon.
    It's important when trying to understand the root cause of a phenomenon that you don't muddy the waters with irrelevancies.
    If Amazon could generate a graph of the types of people who buy typology books, odds are you'd see a (numerical) N bias there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Oh Jesus. No.
    I said it because it's true.

    This thread is about why there are a disproportionate # of Ns here.
    While it may be true that there is an N bias, it is not a cause of that phenomenon.
    It's important when trying to understand the root cause of a phenomenon that you don't muddy the waters with irrelevancies.
    If Amazon could generate a graph of the types of people who buy typology books, odds are you'd see a (numerical) N bias there too.
    I see what you're saying, I just jumped in the conversation halfway through. As to the cause of the numerical bias, it is a combination of false test results and intuitives attraction to abstraction.

    Makes me think, why am I still here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I see what you're saying, I just jumped in the conversation halfway through. As to the cause of the numerical bias, it is a combination of false test results and intuitives attraction to abstraction.

    Makes me think, why am I still here?
    What numerical bias? Exactly how much bias is there? Can you give a percentage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I think some of the N bias is a me bias as well. I imagine there are a percentage of people mistyped for whatever reason. And there is also people who really are N and think that is where it is at. I am okay with that, I think S is where it is. It seems inevitable that the combination of an abstract concept and ego would cause an N bias overall.
    The more time goes by, the more I agree that S is really where it's at.


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