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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    The author is Ernest Hemingway, famous INFP!
    Aren't famous typings usually disputed? I don't know that much about him, honestly, but I don't see why ISFP couldn't be a good possibility. I think ISxP like to think about the atmosphere or aesthetics of a situation; and ISFPs seem to like to talk/write about it a lot more. But you probably have a different idea in mind and I wouldn't mind hearing it.

    I'm guessing you know the story this comes from so you know what the character's type is. So you typed him ESTP? I mean, yeah sure, that makes sense of course, I can't say I can be certain about anything I've ever said here or treat anything anyone says as factual, rather than a suggestion (but this is insightful to think about anyway). It just seemed like ISTP might be more likely just from that excerpt. But I'm probably biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    more from the same source:

    “Just as summer-killed meat draws flies, so the court draws spurious sages, philosophists, and acosmists who remain there as long as their purses and their wits will maintain them, in the hope (at first) of an appointment from the Autarch and (later) of obtaining a tutorial position in some exalted family. At sixteen or so, Thecla was attracted, as I think young women often are, to their lectures on theogony, thodicy, and the like, and I recall one particularly in which a phoebad put forward as an ultimate truth the ancient sophistry of the existence of three Adonai, that of the city (or of the people), that of the poets, and that of the philosophers. Her reasoning was that since the beginning of human consciousness (if such a beginning ever was) there have been vast numbers of persons in the three categories who have endeavored to pierce the secret of the divine. If it does not exist, they should have discovered that long before; if it does, it is not possible that Truth itself should mislead them. Yet the beliefs of the populace, the insights of the rhapsodists, and the theories of the metaphysicians have so far diverged that few of them can so much as comprehend what the others say, and someone who knew nothing of any of their ideas might well believe there was no connection at all between them.

    May it not be, she asked (and even now I am not certain I can answer), that instead of traveling, as has always been supposed, down three roads to the same destination, they are actually traveling toward three quite different ones? After all, when in common life we behold three roads issuing from the same crossing, we do not assume they all proceed toward the same goal.

    I found (and find) this suggestion as rational as it is repellent, and it represents for me all that monomaniacal fabric of argument, so tightly woven that not even the tiniest objection or spark of light can escape its net, in which human minds become enmeshed whenever the subject is one in which no appeal to fact is possible.

    As a fact the Claw was thus an incommensurable. No quantity of money, no piling up of archipelagoes or empires could approach it in value any more than the indefinite multiplication of horizontal distance could be made to equal vertical distance. If it was, as I believed, a thing from outside the universe, then its light, which I had seen shine faintly so often, and a few times brightly, was in some sense the only light we had. If it were destroyed, we were left fumbling in
    the dark.”
    INTJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little_Sticks View Post
    Aren't famous typings usually disputed? I don't know that much about him, honestly, but I don't see why ISFP couldn't be a good possibility. I think ISxP like to think about the atmosphere or aesthetics of a situation; and ISFPs seem to like to talk/write about it a lot more. But you probably have a different idea in mind and I wouldn't mind hearing it.

    I'm guessing you know the story this comes from so you know what the character's type is. So you typed him ESTP? I mean, yeah sure, that makes sense of course, I can't say I can be certain about anything I've ever said here or treat anything anyone says as factual, rather than a suggestion (but this is insightful to think about anyway). It just seemed like ISTP might be more likely just from that excerpt. But I'm probably biased.
    People will dispute almost anything. But the quoted material has more of an Se quality about it. Notice how descriptive it is.
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