greenfairy
philosopher wood nymph
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Honestly, in this case, it is.
Maybe so. So I'm XNXX now.
Honestly, in this case, it is.
No, which is why I took the time to correct it in a separate post on the thread, and a few other times. I should probably have edited the OP to say it explicitly.
Alright, that's an argument. Which would be valid if INFP's value being open minded more than most other types. Or if INTX's don't particularly value being openminded.
And we should look at the purpose and the reasoning behind the value as well; I see it as I can't possibly reach knowledge of objective truth if I don't weigh my opinions against other people's. Which could either look at Ti searching for truth through Ne (INTP), Ni synthesizing both Te and Fi (INTJ), Fi seeing other viewpoints and being able to see the value in them through understanding of objectivity and then using Te for confirmation (INFP), or even Fe+Ti synthesized by Ni in INFJ.
It basically comes down to that Te requires external validation and evidence to come to it's conclusions. Ti doesn't. It may be hard to grasp that. But I bet if you are Ti user, you've probably clashed with a Te user without realizing why. And vice versa. Both probably wondering what is wrong with the other person. It's not the entire difference, but it's one of the hallmarks.
Te dominants strength is making external judgements using what is known to them, which is Ti dominants weakness, whilst Ti strength is making internal judgements evaluating what is happening in the now which is Te dominants weakness, but they do it speaking the same logic based 'language'.
Ti - internal categories and principles upon which one judges/interprets the world from an abstract point of view
Te - external/empirical quantification, experimentation, and organization.
Both functions are logical, just in different ways. Ti abstracts; Te is more empirical.
Whether or not I liked them is not the point. The ones which were the most emphatic didn't contain very much actual information and reasoning.
Well yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. I'm not the one who has a problem with me supposedly being mistyped. If you do, and you think I'm wrong, and I should change my mind, then you are the one starting the debate and the burden of proof is on you.
Ok, I'll try to do that. I figured there was so much information it would be impossible. (Fi seeing all the subjective nuances of my personality?) But if I am a type I should be able to.
Ok, so I don't sound like INTP or argue like one, and I have flaws in my reasonings. That may be. Mind telling me the reasons behind these statements? So I can agree with you? I'm willing to if you can provide me with something to agree with. How do INTP's argue in your experience? How do they sound? And can you give me one example of a flaw in my reasoning so I can attempt to correct it? I don't mind you giving me your opinion. I appreciate it. It's just that even if I may not excel at logic all the time that's how my mind attempts to work, so I need all the puzzle pieces to fit before I can firmly establish the puzzle in my mind as fact. Which means I need to know specifically how INFP contrasts with INTP in the cases you pointed out.
Maybe so. So I'm XNXX now.
I'm gonna officially suggest what others already have. Put a video up on that Video type me thread. It could help a lot.
You see? This is what we get for raising our pitchforks and torches. "Where are our saviors when we need them?" They're banned. We banned them.Where is Pod'Lair now that we actually need it? sigh.
Where is Pod'Lair now that we actually need it? sigh.
You see? This is what we get for raising our pitchforks and torches. "Where are our saviors when we need them?" They're banned. We banned them.
We did this to ourselves.
I'm simply saying being typed as the one I chose regardless of the truth of it was something that worked for me at the moment and seemed true to me. It seems to bother people, and instead of saying F you I don't care whether you like my mistype or not I'm doing you all a favor by hearing your reasoning so maybe I'll change my mind if it's true, and then you won't be bothered anymore. I could just say I'm choosing to be INTP even if I'm wrong and that's that, but I figure you NT's who think I'm not would find that even more annoying.
You see? This is what we get for raising our pitchforks and torches. "Where are our saviors when we need them?" They're banned. We banned them.
We did this to ourselves.
I'm sorry but really an intp would just never say this
Compare yourself to other intps. Can't you see the difference?
I do appreciate that; I was just frustrated because I couldn't see how said Cf's applied, and there wasn't any reasoning behind the particular Cf labels. I am listening; numerous times I've said I can see your point and listed my reasons why I agree or why I think I can in fact appear that way. So my mind is shifting, it's just a gradual process. I go about it like a scientific theory; I gather and weigh evidence on both sides. Evidence is currently stacked in different places, and it continually shifts and re-sorts itself.
I appreciate you pointing these out to me. I had no idea I needed to introduce myself in my message to you. (Honestly I don't remember what it was about, but I think I thought you were a mod of some sort.) I thought I was using the forum for its intended purpose, which was (partly) to have fun typing people, and I thought I would be especially fun since I'm an unusual person. I enjoy doing that on here with other people. So I'll do that less knowing it's bad ettiquette and try to figure out what proper forum use is. Maybe I was being passive-aggressive. Which I don't like, and I will make an effort to stop doing.
Honestly I don't know, because it confuses me too.
I'll read more and think about it, and I might change my mind at some point. At this point all I can be sure about is inferior or shadow Fe and well developed Ni.
was ni a typo?
I have a hard time believing people are as bothered as you seem to think they are.
I think a lot of it might be your own sensitivity to what they're saying.
which an intp wouldn't have!! haha i'm sorry but an intp would never even start a thread with this intention. it's just clear as day to me. i mean...i can't be certain you're infp...maybe you're intj.
Would an INFP start a thread like this??
Would an INFP start a thread like this??
Not every INFP. But I've known some INFx's who would, it's like a subset of the type.