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    Lots of people mistype themselves, but you abuse the privilege.

    Your spectacular thread fail had nothing to do with your (mis)understanding of typology.

    It just really, really sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    It's called an ad hominem fallacy.
    Seems like you are already getting familiar with TypoC vocabulary. Go you!

    I agree with you. I've actually joked about you being INFP about two times; but when people use your (supposed) mbti type to disqualify your idea, that's pretty low.

    But you shouldn't give those people the power to affect you. If that ever happens again, just say ''Thank you for the feedback but I think you should focus on the topic.''.

    There are people here who love to bait. Specially 2 Inferior F women whose names shall go unmentioned. Just make a mental note and avoid the bait next time.

    Here's something for inspiration:

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    What is serious typology? Seems like an oxymoron. Typing others is based off heuristics by necessity. That is why authors and that always say only you can truly type yourself.
    Well presumably psychologists have put a lot of research and effort into studying types and cognitive functions, and it would make sense to use what they have discovered rather than just say fairies are NF. That's not very scientific.

    Maybe not. Maybe it's just fluff, like astrology. In which case I don't know why so many NT's are on a typology forum but think astrology is BS and automatically in the NF category. Maybe typology is NF too. So we're all NF's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Seems like you are already getting familiar with TypoC vocabulary. Go you!

    I agree with you. I've actually joked about you being INFP about two times; but when people use your (supposed) mbti type to disqualify your idea, that's pretty low.

    But you shouldn't those people the power to affect you. If that ever happens again, just say ''Thank you for the feedback but I think you should focus on the topic.''.

    There are people here who love to bait. Specially 2 Inferior F women whose names shall go unmentioned. Just make a mental note and avoid the bait next time.

    Here's something for inspiration:
    Thanks. I was already coming to that conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Lots of people mistype themselves, but you abuse the privilege.

    Your spectacular thread fail had nothing to do with your (mis)understanding of typology.

    It just really, really sucked.
    Ok, thanks. That's a relief.

    I'm such a fool I can't possibly be the type I say I am.

    Well in any case, I'm not leaving, so expect more spectacularly failing threads in the future.

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    It has to do with the history of these forums which started with iNtuitive Central which fell apart, then many types migrated to INTPCentral, then this site was formed to aid in limiting that forum to INTPs only. Because of this iNtuitives have more social power than Sensors and Thinkers have more social power than Feelers. It is harder to see as an NT because people who benefit from a system or who have the most power tend to see it as fair because there can be a tendency to place more weight on benefits to self than others. It is a touchy subject, though.

    There is one guilty pleasure I must confess that I enjoy about presenting as a Feeler. When you do win a logical debate with a "Thinker" it is more amusing, and it seems more impressive because expectations are subconsciously lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    There is one guilty pleasure I must confess that I enjoy about presenting as a Feeler. When you do win a logical debate with a "Thinker" it is more amusing, and it seems more impressive because expectations are subconsciously lower.
    Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    I don't think this is conscious behavior. I think people are emotionally attached to being rational and it makes them feel good about themselves. And if they perceive someone as irrational they don't want to think that person is their type.
    I think that's operational in various types, not just NTs. But I'd agree that there are some NTs who are like that. I remember having a kind of disdain for Fe values and illogic when I was a teenager, partly because I (or others) kept getting burned by people who were making capricious or irrational decisions, and I hated it. I remember my self-esteem also sucked, so being hyper-rational was an ego booster for me. But it ain't very conducive to relationships, and when I got married, I had to suddenly face those conceited, self-interested attitudes in myself.

    I think it's just a journey people of different types have to go through, and not just T's; there are F's in my family who I think are pretty judgmental and conceited because they really don't grasp the truth that T people might still feel loyalty and love and concern for others but just don't express it as directly as they might, and so they dismiss it as non-existent and then take it out on said T people.

    Put another way, we all suck to start with and have to get over it.


    Or they are just so attached to being logical that they are quick to dismiss anyone who doesn't fit their ideas of what that means. Anyway, Fi or not, this is the vibe I get from some people. Maybe I'm totally wrong. I hope so.
    Like I said, I think sometimes what you're saying is what's in play. But I don't think all the people who have disagreed with you on type on this forum have been operating from that principle, and so I gave you a different basis from which you might understand it.


    It's not that important. I like INTP more than INFP at the moment.
    Lol. And I am here wondering, "What does LIKING a particular type have to do with anything?" See what I mean? It's funny you even mention it as part of your decision process.

    Which does not affect what the reality of my type is of course, but if I seem equally like each of them in my mind, I could just pick one and it wouldn't make a difference. And one reason I don't want to be INFP is that there are a lot of characteristics of the type that really annoy me, and I don't want to have them. It's like the reverse of the NT club. It's the anti-Fi club. Any traces of those characteristics which may have been present in myself, I have done a good job of wiping out. There's nothing that really annoys me about INTP's.
    Welll... aside from the fact they apparently give a shit about what your type is and how you've figured it out?

    There are a lot of ways I in fact don't fit INFP anyway, which is what prompted me to look more into typology. I thought INTP was a good fit, so I stuck with it. Most of my research confirmed my choice. I like to think my reasoning is reliable, so it's kind of important to me to make the correct choice. But whatever. As much as I hate it I'm not easily categorizable, and that's fine. the bottom line is that if I were to be INFP I would kind of suck at it. Whereas I'm pretty good at being INTP, minus people's stereotyping. I'd rather be something I'm good at. See?
    So what things do you think you are good at, in terms of INTP?

    It's funny that you spent this whole paragraph talking about what you like and don't like, what you want to be associated with and not associated with, and this thread in getting outraged at people for excluding you from their group... this is all more an F province, if anything. I mean, I'm just tossing this out there as an observation... I'm still waiting for you to come up with some hardcore T approach to your dilemma, while so far you seem to be focused on your preferences. Again, nothing wrong with each other approach, but that is all I'm seeing right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Well presumably psychologists have put a lot of research and effort into studying types and cognitive functions, and it would make sense to use what they have discovered rather than just say fairies are NF. That's not very scientific.

    Maybe not. Maybe it's just fluff, like astrology. In which case I don't know why so many NT's are on a typology forum but think astrology is BS and automatically in the NF category. Maybe typology is NF too. So we're all NF's.

    It is not just fluff, neither is it a hard science. It is psychology, it is an about science. Now that you have started this thread a funny thing occurred to me. I have been on this forum a long time and you do notice patterns in behaviour on the forum. Threads like this are usually NF fair. Just saying, you decide on your type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Maybe not. Maybe it's just fluff, like astrology. In which case I don't know why so many NT's are on a typology forum but think astrology is BS and automatically in the NF category. Maybe typology is NF too. So we're all NF's.
    Well, decent typology seems to be at least based on observation of behaviors, even if behavior is complex enough it can be difficult to sift through and certain behaviors can be reflected in various personality types rather than being exclusive to one.

    Meanwhile, believing that your personality has been determined by what position the stars were in when your mom gave birth just seems like crap all around.
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