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    The first 3 months in which I have dated my ixfp, we havent seen each other in person, but only chatted. I in chats back then was able to write 10 sentences in 10 seconds. She answered very very slowly and every once in a while. Sometimes kicked me out of the middle of the game and gave an answer to a question formulated several hours ago. I neither liked that nor disliked that.

    What I liked tho very much was that we were able to communicate via youtube songs for weeks without saying any more words. Later on we told each other the stories we told each other in songs before and both were quite intrigued how much more the other one has seen in them.

    Now 8 yrs later conversation for us still is not easy. I tend to take things at face value cause she sucks with words. And she tends to take things at face value cause I am not very tactful. But the one thing that will always bond us together is that without words we can communicate like one single mind and the fact that she wants a man and I want a girl. And we pretty much fulfill the stereotype for each of us.
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    It is Conscience, that little voice in your head that demands you do X no matter what the consequences because it is right, all notions of "efficiency", "expediency", "utility", and other such notions beloved in our soulless Capitalist society be damned. To disobey my conscience is to go against "The Good" with a capital G. I would rather pay the ultimate price, even death, than violate what is Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    so difficult to put into words...truly it is.

    but i'll try...imagine for a moment that i have been to heaven and back and i have seen and felt the truth. i know with every thing that i am what love is...i know how utterly sacred the human spirit is.

    and here i am walking around with this knowing...this knowing of the value of each individual...and what rights we each have to experience all the depth of beauty this life has to offer...so when i see someone step on that right...or attempt to take it from another...it hurts my heart...truly pains it. not in some slight way but in a blasphemous deep deep hurt...like they are going against all that is right...all that should be and all that each individual deserves. it is a sense of knowing something is wrong by emphatically feeling what it does to others...if it causes hurt to you...if it in anyway takes away your inherent rights. it is wrong.

    i feel that the individual spirit is sacred and should be protected at all costs.

    i feel my way through the world...i experience the world not only through the sights and sounds but the feeling impressions that i encounter throughout the day. i am terribly nostalgic and idealistic and my thoughts wander like that of a child playing make believe...so how i feel is often determined by what i'm imagining at the time....certain activities/places can be enjoyable because maybe it reminds me of a beautiful scene in a movie i saw once...or a favorite memory...or whatever place my mind has wandered off to
    Get the hell outta my brain, Miss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Feelers try to rationalise/understand their emotions.

    Thinkers let them creep up on them.
    In my experience Thinkers tend to have issues with accepting the non-rational part of their personality, they have created such a persona of being logical and rational that their feelings get deeply repressed and leak out in the form of rationalization of value judgements and projection of their own irrationality on others (an example of the later is the emotionally immature STEM student who accuses anyone who disagrees with his poorly thought out ideas with being guilty of some logical fallacy or another).

    A common issue is that of the Te-Dom businessman who represses his Fi value-judgements in the name of "doing his job" and ends up hurting a lot of people because of the drive to maximize profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    think of it like this...

    there's 15 kids all surrounding a bully and the kid he's picking on. the kids watching are egging him on. they wanna see a fight. they laugh at the bully's cruel jokes.

    the majority as i see it does not win. their rights do not outweigh the individual because of the inherent truth of what is right.
    "The worst part of Hell is reserved for those who are in a situation of moral adversity and chose to do nothing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Do you sort of have "ACLU" type of thinking? Say, defend Nazi parades, because they have a voice too. Because my first thought would be to gun them down. But only if I could get away with it. The cherry on top would be to get a pat on the back maybe. I don't care about some people's rights, when it comes down to it.
    I'm an INFP and an Anti-Fa. I would have no problem bringing the hammer of The People's Justice some Neo-Nazi thugs.
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    ON DEMAND? FUCK NO! ALSO FUCK THESE STUPID YELLING LETTERS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Well, I get the impression you are thinking it is something like navel gazing. But it is more like Ti with more of a tendency to focus on the emotional elements.
    What do you mean by this? Explain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I don't think so. Sounds like an extrovert's use of the introverted function or perhaps the use of NeFi. For me the sonar works the other way. Information goes in, finds its own storage place in my mind and the Fi evaluates it and casts judgment. The sonar would be used on me only, trying to determine the contents of my mind and heart as if it were perhaps a cave. Then I work it through the thinking stage.

    I hope this makes more sense than last time. Fi really isn't that complex or complicated a function IMO. It becomes more confounding than anything because we can't articulate it that easily.
    Yes, I can easily feel other's emotions as well. I just know if it comes from the inside out, or from the outside in.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorS View Post
    It is Conscience, that little voice in your head that demands you do X no matter what the consequences because it is right, all notions of "efficiency", "expediency", "utility", and other such notions beloved in our soulless Capitalist society be damned. To disobey my conscience is to go against "The Good" with a capital G. I would rather pay the ultimate price, even death, than violate what is Good.
    Yeah, I get this sometimes. Ti users don't apparently?

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    I can't get emotionally worked up about my Fi any more than I'd get emotionally worked up about the fact that I have eyes. I mean, yeah, I could sit down and ponder how amazing it is that I have eyes and cry tears of joy about it but really, most of the time, why would I do that? I wouldn't.

    Anyway, Fi for me is like a very sensitively calibrated balancing scale that informs me whenever something is emotionally, morally or aesthetically dissonant and makes me feel gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    What do you mean by this? Explain?
    I mean that it is rational and based upon perceptions, how you feel, how others feel, react and so forth. I just see Fi as what I like/don't like, what is right/ not right from a personal point of view. A framework that has been built from experience.

    It is quite a challenge to trust that, it is personal. Maybe that is why people will not, or cannot talk about it.

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