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    Quote Originally Posted by minutegovt View Post
    Yeah i get you completely. I've also moved house and walked down the wrong street a couple of times in the dark, with anything new like that you just got to be conscious about where you're going I suppose
    but this was in broad daylight, and it was the same street each time, which is why I believe it to be Si

    I didn't even feel lost.

    I think it may be these peoples front gate I just want to keep walking to it. And Im bad about not reading street signs, and my street sign happens to be obscured behind some vines or a bush.

    Not just like not paying attention or getting lost, but like subconsciously repeating the same sensory pattern again without questioning it, at first not until I noticed the house wasn't where it was supposed to be on the street, finally catching myself the fourth or fifth time I do this.

    The one time I came home in the dark I actually turned down the right street. I had even been drinking.

    So to recap: sober in broad daylight I keep walking down the wrong street at night after a few beers I go straight to my house.

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    Oh and lest anyone fear for my ability to even care for myself, despite my writing Im a visual learner and like many females remember houses, plants, shops and so forth instead of street signs or north east south west. However when traveling of course I pay attention to street signs.

    Its just that I felt comfortable and safe in this neighborhood and was using this gas station down the street as a marker, like my street is a few streets down and diagonal from there so I remembered the wrong visual markers or misjudged the distance. I also think I must like those peoples front gate.

    Im guessing intoxicated in the evening I felt more cautious and alert and was less distracted by visual markers because u can't see as well in the dark, so funnily was correct that time.

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    Yep, been there, done that!

    We need a "sensotard" smiley...
    "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices." --William James

    I'd be a card-carrying sensotard, but I can't find the goddamn card.

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    ow you shadow users, bow down before my inferior Si, for i have tasted the fruits of remembering where i placed my socks, and it was glorious, GLORIOUS!

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    When I was young I used to walk and get lost in the suburban maze and somehow I'd make it back without knowing how I did it. I'm figuring it's inferior Si magic. That's when Si goes right for me. Now I work in a beige office cube farm, and they've shuffled us around where I sit the same place in respect to mirror image stairwells and bathrooms, just on the opposite side of the building. My Si just doesn't register it at all I keep heading to my old seat.

    @Mane Lol, I too revel in the ability to occasionally find where I left things.

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    how is this related to Si?
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    how is this related to Si?
    How does it not?

    I know that how I get my bearings in a space is a by kinda vague memories of impressions of when I had been there before, it's almost a feeling. I assumed that was Si. Do you disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    How does it not?

    I know that how I get my bearings in a space is a by kinda vague memories of impressions of when I had been there before, it's almost a feeling. I assumed that was Si. Do you disagree?
    yes i disagree. Si is http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...es#Sensation_2

    Sensation, which in obedience to its whole nature is concerned with the object and the objective stimulus, also undergoes a considerable modification in the introverted attitude. It, too, has a subjective factor, for beside the object sensed there stands a sensing subject, who contributes his subjective disposition to the objective stimulus. In the introverted attitude sensation is definitely based upon the subjective portion of perception.

    It is an unconscious disposition, which alters the sense-perception at its very source, thus depriving it of the character of a purely objective influence. In this case, sensation is related primarily to the subject, and only secondarily to the object.

    The ascendancy of the subjective factor occasionally achieves a complete suppression of the mere influence of the object; but none the less sensation remains sensation, although it has come to be a perception of the subjective factor, and the effect of the object has sunk to the level of a mere stimulant. Introverted sensation develops in accordance with this subjective direction. A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus. Subjective perception differs remarkably from the objective. It is either not found at all in the object, or, at most, merely suggested by it; it can, however, be similar to the sensation of other men, although not immediately derived from the objective behaviour of things. It does not impress one as a mere product of consciousness—it is too genuine for that. But it makes a definite psychic impression, since elements of a higher psychic order are perceptible to it. This order, however, does not coincide with the contents of consciousness. It is concerned with presuppositions, or dispositions of the collective unconscious, with mythological images, with primal possibilities of ideas. The character of significance and meaning clings to subjective perception. It says more than the mere image of the object, though naturally only to him for whom the subjective factor has some meaning. To another, a reproduced subjective impression seems to suffer from the defect of possessing insufficient similarity with the object; it seems, therefore, to have failed in its purpose. Subjective sensation apprehends the background of the physical world rather than its surface. The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them. Such a consciousness would see the becoming and the passing of things beside their present and momentary existence, and not only that, but at the same time it would also see that Other, which was before their becoming and will be after their passing hence. To this consciousness the present moment is improbable. This is, of course, only a simile, of which, however, I had need to give some sort of illustration of the peculiar nature of introverted sensation. Introverted sensation conveys an image whose effect is not so much to reproduce the object as to throw over it a wrapping whose lustre is derived from age-old subjective experience and the still unborn future event. Thus, mere sense impression develops into the depth of the meaningful, while extraverted sensation seizes only the momentary and manifest existence of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    I don't see what I said and what you referenced are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    I don't see what I said and what you referenced are different.
    and i dont see how they are even remotely the same
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