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INTJ vs INTP

Eric B

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I like how it all connects together. So you also have Interaction Styles, where INTP is "informative" and INTJ is "directive" (another reason why INTP's are a bit "softer"). This does connect to the functions, as introverted iNtuition when preferred is always directive, and extraverted iNtuition is always informative. Introverted Feeling is also always informative when preferred, but in the unpreferred position of tertiary, it supports the always directive extraverted Thinking!
 

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It seems based on this vid like INTJs are more open minded, as in they gather more information before coming to conclusions, whereas INTPs are more logical, basing the valadity of an idea on some preconceived internal framework, of course I could have interpreted the vid incorrectly. INTJs also seem to be more stone hearted yet abstract, whereas INTPs seem softer yet more precise and less detailed.
 

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I commented:
I like how it all connects together. So you also have Interaction Styles, where INTP is "informative" and INTJ is "directive" (another reason why INTP's are a bit "softer"). This does connect to the functions, as introverted iNtuition when preferred is always directive, and extraverted iNtuition is always informative. Introverted Feeling is also always informative when preferred, but in the unpreferred position of tertiary, it supports the always directive extraverted Thinking!

I did not realize you were on youtube! Anyway, I have not studied interaction styles at all.
 

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It seems based on this vid like INTJs are more open minded, as in they gather more information before coming to conclusions,

Well, yes and no. Like I said during the Ni vs Ne part of the video, INTPs are less focused with a broader scope whereas it is reversed with the INTJs. However, INTJs have generally gathered more information than INTPs (just because their perceiving function is dominant), just this information is more "specialized" so to speak (Does that make sense?).

whereas INTPs are more logical, basing the valadity of an idea on some preconceived internal framework

I would say that's about right.

INTJs also seem to be more stone hearted yet abstract, whereas INTPs seem softer yet more precise and less detailed.

Yeah, I would say so, though I'm not sure about the less detailed part.
 

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I did not realize you were on youtube! Anyway, I have not studied interaction styles at all.
And you'd never know that was me, as I don't have any type-related videos up. (I discuss type purely through writing, so have not used YT for that).
Interaction Styles use I/E and another factor, called directing/informing (which is basically T/F for S's and J/P for N's). So the "styles" are EST/ENJ, IST/INJ, ESF/ENP and ISF/INP.
 

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And you'd never know that was me, as I don't have any type-related videos up. (I discuss type purely through writing, so have not used YT for that).
Interaction Styles use I/E and another factor, called directing/informing (which is basically T/F for S's and J/P for N's). So the "styles" are EST/ENJ, IST/INJ, ESF/ENP and ISF/INP.

Oh, I see. It does connect. From what you said, it seems based off the functions?
 

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Basically,
Te, Ni always directive;
Fi, Ne always informative;
Se, Si, Ti, Fe, can go either way, depending on the other preferred function.
When those last four are together (SeTi, SiFe), then it's the rule for S's: S+T=directive, S+F=informative.

Of course, E/I are determined by which of those functions is dominant.

As for whether this is based on the functions, most would probably assume so. But I once proposed an idea where the temperament and Interaction styles factors were the underlying basis instead:
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...cs/36880-types-neurological-binary-codes.html
 

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Basically,
Te, Ni always directive;
Fi, Ne always informative;
Se, Si, Ti, Fe, can go either way, depending on the other preferred function.
When those last four are together (SeTi, SiFe), then it's the rule for S's: S+T=directive, S+F=informative.

Of course, E/I are determined by which of those functions is dominant.

As for whether this is based on the functions, most would probably assume so. But I once proposed an idea where the temperament and Interaction styles factors were the underlying basis instead:
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...cs/36880-types-neurological-binary-codes.html

I'll be sure to check that out.

Ni is directive? I wouldn't have guessed. Also shouldn't Fe be directive since it always pushing forth a value judgement?
 

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I think it's pretty good, maybe some more real world examples would help newer people to typology though, such as how Te and Ti arrive at different conclusions. I think youtube descriptions on Ni are the fewest out of the lot so it's good this is up, thanks.
 

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I think it's pretty good, maybe some more real world examples would help newer people to typology though, such as how Te and Ti arrive at different conclusions. I think youtube descriptions on Ni are the fewest out of the lot so it's good this is up, thanks.

Yep, you're probably right. I need to work on coming up with real world examples...
 
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LOL!

SPOILER:
...But eventually loses in the end.

That's because what Kira wanted was much larger than what L wanted.

L wanted to catch someone.
Kira wanted to change the whole world.

Who has a higher chance of failing one should wonder?

Anyway what I'm trying to imply is that INTJs tend to aim high whereas INTPs tend to mentally masturbate more, so the chances of failing are less ;).
 

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I'll be sure to check that out.

Ni is directive? I wouldn't have guessed. Also shouldn't Fe be directive since it always pushing forth a value judgement?
It's Feeling, which lends to people-focus (what "informing" is an example of). However, since it is an extraverted Judgment, it will always include a measure of both people and task focus. So it can be directive + motive focus (NFJ's), or informing + structure focus (SFJ's). Where directive/informative is apart of Interaction Style, structure/motive is sort of a parallel people/task dimension for the Keirsey temperaments. Basically, both dimensions will tie to T/F or J/P, depending on S/N.

Ni is N+J, and for N's, J/P is tied to directive/informative (T/F is structure/motive, and J/P is structure/motive for S's), so Ni preferring types end up all being directive.
Makes sense, because Ni perception will tend to leave less room for openness, in total contrast to Ne, of course.
 

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This has got to be one of the most accurate and lucid descriptions of the differences between INTJs and INTPs that I've ever seen.

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Thoughts?
 

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I put my money on the INTP.

The INTJ is more likely to get boxed in by the traditional uses of potential weapons while the INTP is more likely to just grab a nearby glass and smash it over the INTJ's head, then picking up a shard and cutting them up.
 

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Wait... I think I misunderstood the purpose of this thread :shock:
 
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