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    Default Comparing cognitive function tests

    Here are the ones I know of:


    Keys 2 Cognition http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
    Personality Café http://www.cognitivequiz.com/

    Similar Minds http://similarminds.com/classic_jung.html
    Team Technology http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi/questionnaire/


    So which one of these do you think most accurately represents your function order?
    Which one do you think gets best gets at the true essence of what the cognitive functions really are?
    Which one, if any, would you most recommend to others wanting to learn more about their cognitive function strengths?

    Here is how my cognitive functions rank on the different assessments, from strongest to weakest:
    Keys 2 Cognition: Fi, Ne, Ti, Si, Ni, Te, Fe, Se
    Personality Cafe: Ti, Ne, Te, Ni, Fe, Si, Fi, Se
    Similar Minds: Ti, Ne, Si = Fi, Fe, Te, Ni, Se
    Team Technology: Fi, Ti, Si, Ni, Se, Ne, Fe, Te

    Some interesting patterns emerge from this:
    Ti is the only function that's consistently high on all the assessments. It's also my dominant so no surprise there.

    Ne is high on all of them except for the last one. I'm all about seeing possibilities in the world but I don't necessarily like change just for its own sake, which is what the last test seemed to emphasize.

    Si is in the middle on all of them. Not particularly strong or weak. It's my tertiary according to type theory.

    Fe is either medium or low. Fe is supposedly my inferior function by type theory but I'm not sure it's my weakest. Keys 2 Cognition always scores me as low Fe but I think the strength of it is somewhat underestimated.

    Te is either medium or low. Team Technology has it at the bottom but I think it had to do with how the questions were set up. The choices were always between Fi and Te and the Te ones just didn't appeal to me. I prefer not to have to deal with making sure rules are enforced and all that stuff. I think Te is somewhere in the middle in reality.

    Ni is either medium or low. The Similiar Minds one had it low because it seemed to emphasize ideas just spontaneously generating without any external stimuli which I don't really relate to. I depend alot of on external stimuli to generate my ideas, which I think is more Ne.

    Se is at the bottom on all of them except for Team Technology which has it in the middle. I think Se is my weakest function and the reason why it wasn't last on Team Technology, was that it emphasized getting things done and results, which I think is more Te.

    Fi is the most variable one. Two tests have it at the top, one has it in the middle and one has it near the bottom. I think the Keys to Cognition one has a tendency to overestimate peoples' Fi as it asks questions like "Be in touch with what you want for yourself" and "freely enjoy doing things for your personal enjoyment." Most people would agree with such statements. The Team Technology one had it high because it pitted Fi against Te and I didn't really relate to Te so I ended up picking Fi by default even though I didn't always strongly agree with the Fi statements.

    As far as which test best represents my true function order, I'd say the Personality Cafe one with Similar Minds second. Team Technology the least representative.

    I don't think any of the tests are bad, per se, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of Team Technology's question format and it's the one I'd recommend the least to someone. It pits opposite functions against each other and forces you to choose one side or another. Ti vs Fe; Fi vs Te; Si vs Ne; Ni vs Se. It implies that if you are strong in one function, you must be weak in it's opposite. I'm not sure I believe that. I think opposite functions can complement each other and there are situations where they can work together in tandem to produce a far superior result than either could alone. I think one could conceivably be good at both but that's probably not as common.

    Team Technology doesn't give you numerical rankings of your cognitive functions like the other assessments do, just your best fit type. You can still figure it out though since it's easy to determine what cognitive functions each question is testing for.


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    Could you move this thread to Online Personality Tests subforum please? Thanks.
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    Really, it's all about the strongest two, and the relative "strength" of the others has no bearing on type. You're overal results are a lot like min, while most other INTP's and other types get something close to Lenore Thomson's "ship order", which runs TiNeFiSeNiTeSiFe. For a lot of people, the tertiary and inferior are last. For us, the tertiary is high, and the inferior is int he middle, and Ni and Se are the weakest (many INTP's get strong Ni on K2C, and I think the function suffers some of the same Forer effects as Fi, though for us, it is so weak that doesn't happen).

    For me, K2C is in the signature. Earlier tries had lower Ti and higher Ne and Fi, to the point that originally, Ne and Fi was higher than Ti, and I was made INFP. When I learned the operational definitions of those Fi terms, and recognized my Ti more, then I was better able to get around the Forer effects and get more accurate results.

    Similar Minds was "Jung Explorer", but it didn't give me the function-attitudes; it did the regular dichotomy percentages and gave me "Actualized type" (INTP), "Preferred Type" (ENTJ) and "Attraction type" (ENFP). Made perfect sense. (Preferred type is the type you prefer to be, and I wish I could have the ENTJ's toughness and power, it's the purest Choleric, where INTP is the weakest Choleric because the Interaction style is diametric opposite--Supine or Phlegmatic. Attraction Type is who you're attracted to, and ENFP seems good; it has the airy Ne and P attitude, so we could see eye to eye on that level; and Feeling, and thus softer than another Thinker. Though I really don't know many).

    On Team Technology I got:
    ISFJ

    Fe Fi Ne Ni Se Si Te Ti
    14 22 9 23 12 26 13 21

    This was way back in the very beginning for me (one of the first typology-based tests I ever took); before I knew what the functions were at all, and ISFJ only made sense because I could recognize the type as being Supine, so it seemed to fit.

    On the PerC test, most people almost unanimously get the two strongest as something that does not make a type, such as TiNi or TiTe, and I got something like that, and basically don't take the test seriously at all. If you actually got it to give you TiNe, you're quite rare.

    Nardi has some other versions of the test besides K2C, and here's from the 2003 test:

    - █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ Ti

    - █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ Ne

    - █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ Si

    - █ █ █ █ █ █ █ Fi

    - █ █ █ █ █ █ █ Te

    - █ █ █ Fe

    - █ █ Se

    - █ Ni

    Same order I get on the newer one.

    So to answer the question, I think K2C is the most accurate.
    APS Profile: Inclusion: e/w=1/6 (Supine) |Control: e/w=7/3 (Choleric) |Affection: e/w=1/9 (Supine)
    Ti 54.3 | Ne 47.3 | Si 37.8 | Fe 17.7 | Te 22.5 | Ni 13.4 | Se 18.9 | Fi 27.9

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    How did you get function order for the team technology one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    How did you get function order for the team technology one?
    Think of this test as having four scales:

    1) Ti vs Fe
    2) Fi vs Te
    3) Si vs Ne
    4) Ni vs Se

    It should be pretty easy to determine which question goes with what scale.

    Each question has six bubbles.

    If you select the far left or the far right one, score 3 points towards that corresponding function.

    If you select the 2nd leftmost or 2nd rightmost one, score 2 points.

    If you select one of the middle two, score 1 point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    Think of this test as having four scales:

    1) Ti vs Fe
    2) Fi vs Te
    3) Si vs Ne
    4) Ni vs Se

    It should be pretty easy to determine which question goes with what scale.

    Each question has six bubbles.

    If you select the far left or the far right one, score 3 points towards that corresponding function.

    If you select the 2nd leftmost or 2nd rightmost one, score 2 points.

    If you select one of the middle two, score 1 point.
    Oh, well that takes longer


    Fine.... was curious to see if I could guess all them right and I think I did. My order on that one is: Ne, Ti, Ni, Fi, Te, Se=Fe, Si..... pretty darn similar to what all the other cognitive function tests say for me. I might more semi-formally evaluate them later....

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    Ok ill have a go:

    Key's to Cognition:

    Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ********** (10.3)
    unused
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************************* (45.9)
    excellent use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************** (38.5)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************** (28)
    average use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************* (25.1)
    average use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************************** (32.4)
    good use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) *************************** (27.8)
    average use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************* (31.4)
    good use


    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ISFJ

    Personalitycafe:

    I Based on your cognitive functions, your type is most likely:
    Most Likely: INFP
    or Second Possibility: INFJ
    or Third Possibility: ISFJ


    Your cognitive functions are, in order of development:
    Fi - Ni - Si - Fe - Ne - Ti - Te - Se





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    Te (Extroverted Thinking) (30%)
    your valuation of / adherence to logic of external systems / hierarchies / methods

    Ti (Introverted Thinking) (50%)
    your valuation of / adherence to your own internally devised logic/rational

    Ne (Extroverted Intuition) (55%)
    your valuation of / tendency towards free association and creating with external stimuli

    Ni (Introverted Intuition) (30%)
    your valuation of / tendency towards internal/original free association and creativity

    Se (Extroverted Sensing) (25%)
    your valuation of / tendency to fully experience the world unfiltered, in the moment

    Si (Introverted Sensing) (100%)
    your valuation of / focus on internal sensations and reliving past moments

    Fe (Extroverted Feeling) (80%)
    your valuation of / adherence to external morals, ethics, traditions, customs, groups

    Fi (Introverted Feeling) (70%)
    your valuation of / adherence to the sanctity of your own feelings / ideals / sentiment

    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    based on your results your type is likely - isfj


    Team Technology

    The MMDI thinks your personality is closest to ISTJ, and 2nd closest to ISFJ. If your closest personality type is ISTJ then you are interested in clarity and knowledge. You like to observe and listen, and have a particular interest in facts and information which help you to develop as clear a knowledge as possible. You like to know where you stand, e.g.: having clear goals to which you are working, and to know that what you are expected to do is achievable. You value your experience, which serves as a strong guide to your decisions.

    According to these ISFJ seems very much like me.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Team Technology MMDI:
    Se 16, Ti 12, Te 10, Ne 9, Si 2, Fe 2, Fi 2, Ni 1
    Type: ESTP 77% or ISTP 71%

    Keys 2 Cognition:
    Se 39.6, Ti 38.5, Te 36.6, Ni 28.5, Fe 28.2, Si 25.3, Ne 22.3, Fi 20.4
    Type: ESTP, ISTP or ENTJ

    Similar Minds:
    Ti 70%, Se 70%, Te 55%, Fe 55%, Ni 45%, Ne 40%, Si 25%, Fi 15%
    Type: unclear

    Personality Cafe:
    Se 8.48 - Te 8.31 - Ti 7.45 - Fe 5.45 - Si 5.02 - Ni 3.89 - Ne 2.92 - Fi -2.06
    Type: ESTP or ESTJ or ISTP

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    Te (Extroverted Thinking) (50%)
    your valuation of / adherence to logic of external systems / hierarchies / methods

    Ti (Introverted Thinking) (65%)
    your valuation of / adherence to your own internally devised logic/rational

    Ne (Extroverted Intuition) (70%)
    your valuation of / tendency towards free association and creating with external stimuli

    Ni (Introverted Intuition) (95%)
    your valuation of / tendency towards internal/original free association and creativity

    Se (Extroverted Sensing) (40%)
    your valuation of / tendency to fully experience the world unfiltered, in the moment

    Si (Introverted Sensing) (45%)
    your valuation of / focus on internal sensations and reliving past moments

    Fe (Extroverted Feeling) (25%)
    your valuation of / adherence to external morals, ethics, traditions, customs, groups

    Fi (Introverted Feeling) (85%)
    your valuation of / adherence to the sanctity of your own feelings / ideals / sentiment

    Introverted Thinking (Ti) |||||||||||||||||||| 9.45
    Introverted Intuition (Ni) |||||||||||||||| 7.255
    Extroverted Intuition (Ne) ||||||||||||||| 6.96
    Extroverted Thinking (Te) ||||||||||||||| 6.85
    Introverted Sensation (Si) |||||||||||| 5
    Extroverted Feeling (Fe) ||||||||| 3.98
    Extroverted Sensation (Se) |||| 1.25
    Introverted Feeling (Fi) || -0.83

    Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20.9)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ******************************************* (43)
    excellent use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************** (32.7)
    good use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************* (37.8)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ************** (14.7)
    unused
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************** (30.8)
    good use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18.1)
    limited use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************************** (41.8)
    excellent use
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    This is good all cognitive tests at one!
    Keys2Cognition gave me: Fi>Ni>Ne>Ti>Si>Fe>Te>Se
    Type: INFP, ENFP, INTP
    Personality cafe test: Ne - Ni - Ti - Fe - Fi - Si - Te - Se = ENTP, or INFJ, or INTP
    Similar Minds: Ni 90% - Si 90% - Ne - 75% - Ti - 70% Fe - 60% Fi - 55% Te - 45% - Se - 10%
    unclear type
    MMDI INFx

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