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    Default Ni and Subjectivity

    So I understand that Ni is mostly pushing away details to perceive the core idea behind something, the meaning behind the surface appearance. How is this subjective though? I understand how all the other introverted functions are except for Ni.

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    No clue...and I have it as an aux...so if you find out let me know ha ha

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    Its like when there is a party or a large event, and everyone is having a genuine good time, but you detect something off. All the smiles and dancing aren't forced and no one is on edge, but you detect something awry. You follow your gut with an active receptivity and find that there is a bomb in the birthday cake. Good thing you shrugged off all the placating people who told you that you haven't drunk enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thursday View Post
    Its like when there is a party or a large event, and everyone is having a genuine good time, but you detect something off. All the smiles and dancing aren't forced and no one is on edge, but you detect something awry. You follow your gut with an active receptivity and find that there is a bomb in the birthday cake. Good thing you shrugged off all the placating people who told you that you haven't drunk enough.
    Damn.. those thoughts creep up every once in awhile, but I just want to block them out. Some false alarms in the past, I guess. I don't trust my gut enough. I've had to deal with serious shit flying in my face, but I guess I'm OK with that. Outward madness seems more preferential than possible inner madness.

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    The submergence of subjective perception in living one's life. Because the Ni user lives in the symbolic aspect, without judgement the life becomes a numerous amount of symbolic entities only understandable to Ni user. It is subjective in the sense that it falls under the perception of the Ni individual.

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    Perception of perception itself.
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    It's like one's own impressions of the core idea. It's more than just what it is, it's about what it represents and means to the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorjuice View Post
    So I understand that Ni is mostly pushing away details to perceive the core idea behind something, the meaning behind the surface appearance. How is this subjective though? I understand how all the other introverted functions are except for Ni.
    On the contrary Ni gathers details and interprets them unconsciously. They would constantly ask questions from themselves but unlike INTP would not formulate the answers but would simply let it come to them. Their strength is their ability to wait until the facts present them with an 'aha' moment.

    Of course I do realize it was not the question you were asking but had to point out what I have observed of Ni doms when it comes to facts.

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    I know my Ni is extremely subjective and things that I perceive to be true may or may not be really true. Ni just thinks itself right all the time and mistakes it for objectivity
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21% View Post
    I know my Ni is extremely subjective and things that I perceive to be true may or may not be really true. Ni just thinks itself right all the time and mistakes it for objectivity
    Ni conclusions are based on facts (picked by Se) are they not? Ni doesn't try to formulate answers therefore never asks itslef whether 'there is more?' More the facts, better the Ni and it changes its point of view from time to time (easily adaptable) when Se presents Ni with more facts.

    So yes it is subj............

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