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    Default Men who aren't linear thinkers; Women who aren't web thinkers?

    Something I've been thinking about...

    Evolutionarily speaking, there seems to have been a tendency for men to think "linearly" and for women to think "web-like". I guess, I'd characterize it, in the context of time, as men thinking from "second to minute to hour to day to week....etc etc" and women thinking in terms of "day/night or summer/fall/winter/spring". As such, a linear thinker will have trouble understanding the way something can be both one thing and another, depending, within a context, depending on which context is being referred to. And similarly, a web thinker will be hard pressed to accept the validity of universalizing a context and ignoring the discrepencies that may or may not be apparent.

    Assuming the truth of the both, my question is about those men and women who fall outside that trend.

    Percentage of men who are web thinkers, primarily? Percentage of females who are linear thinkers, primary?

    Is there an "evolutionary tendency" going on today that more or less forces each person to develop both thinking styles suffeciently?

    Examples of women linear thinkers and men web thinkers?

    Perhaps tie it to typology?

    And anything else you might want to say...

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    I have no clue why men are characterized as linear thinkers. (some people would now say - you having no clue proves you're a linear thinker, ehhe)
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    Are you saying men are more likely to be IxTJs and women to be ExFPs?

    Besides, seconds and minutes is a fairly new construct, so it hasn't been going on since time immemorial or anything.

    To approach it from a framework that isn't type related, we could say women are more in touch with moon cycles and seasons, well, because of the way their bodies work. Menstruation and pregnancy, etc.

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    Men think with a goal...linear to the goal.

    Women think to expand and grow...like a web.

    Men think certain ideas are stupid...it does not help to reach the goal

    Women think ideas that dont fit have a better place somewhere else...it will reach another goal

    "Evolution" would be to actually realize when and where each has its place in everyday life, not switch roles between men and women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    Men think with a goal...linear to the goal.

    Women think to expand and grow...like a web.

    Men think certain ideas are stupid...it does not help to reach the goal

    Women think ideas that dont fit have a better place somewhere else...it will reach another goal
    I am not a man, but I think this idea is stupid.

    "Evolution" would be to actually realize when and where each has its place in everyday life
    I agree with this. Both types of thinking (regardless of gender) are necessary for success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I am not a man, but I think this idea is stupid.
    LOL, I was speaking in general. I do not fit this typical mold much either. Its interesting though how people like to place me in it all the time.
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    It's affected by testosterone, estrogen, and dopamine levels
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    the corpus calosum is the part of the brain that connects the two halves. Females typically have larger ones than males do.

    Evolutionaryily speaking, females have to deal with babies. In caveman times, humans wouldn't have been able to see the connection of 2 events spanning 9 months. So, babies were a miracle and just pops up rather unpredictably. This leads t the belief that females had a mysterious power and males were completely removed from causation. So they were stuck with the babies and their mobility is therefore hindered.

    Sitting in an open field with a baby will naturally cause the female to become multi sensory and take on more prey attitudes of defense. It has evolved into modern day multitasking. for the males, the task of hunting and goal setting becomes more important.

    that's the general concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durentu View Post
    the corpus calosum is the part of the brain that connects the two halves. Females typically have larger ones than males do.

    Evolutionaryily speaking, females have to deal with babies. In caveman times, humans wouldn't have been able to see the connection of 2 events spanning 9 months. So, babies were a miracle and just pops up rather unpredictably. This leads t the belief that females had a mysterious power and males were completely removed from causation. So they were stuck with the babies and their mobility is therefore hindered.

    Sitting in an open field with a baby will naturally cause the female to become multi sensory and take on more prey attitudes of defense. It has evolved into modern day multitasking. for the males, the task of hunting and goal setting becomes more important.

    that's the general concept.
    LOL...no, they would have seen it spanning about 270 days. At first they may have attempted to judge it by the size of the stomach, but after many inconsistant results probably found the amount of days to be more accurate assesment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    It's affected by testosterone, estrogen, and dopamine levels
    Correct. Estrogen has been linked to webthinking, intuition and imagination, while Testosteron is linked to linear thinking, thinking in objectives and using logic to get to their goal. Women therefore are more likely to focus on webthinking and men on linear thinking. Apparently, when a fetus' brain is exposed to predominantly estrogen in the womb (and later in puberty), they create more links between the further apart regions of the brain than others, causing a myriad of options and the ability to hold two different views in their head and agreeing with both of them without going insane. Those that are exposed to predominantly testosteron very much link nearby regions together, making for a cohesive, consistent and decisive, but more limited view on things .

    There's even been reported cases of transgendered people who go through with the transformation and notice the difference due to the the hormonal treatments. Men that became female find that they have difficulty deciding as decisively as they used to, and women who become make complain that they miss the 'bigger picture', they used to have.

    Though gender does seem to play a big part, it doesn't have to. Charles Darwin was capable of having faith in Science, and his world famous theory, while being a strong believer in God and the Church, reportedly, which at the time were very much linear opposites. He supposedly was a webthinker. (source: Helen Fisher 'Why him, why her')

    As for dopamine, it is said that dopamine raises testosterone levels. Those predominantly triggered by dopamine however, are peope who are intuitively more interested in exploring life, and different new sensations. Those predominantly triggered by serotonine like safety and security, and build solid foundations....anyone notice a familiar pattern yet?

    Everyone has these hormones in their body, but in different degrees, causing different types of thinking.
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