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    Exclamation A question to all Ne dominants (ENFP/ENTP) or anyone that knows about Ne!

    I posted this question in a different thread but since the question seemed to have stemmed off the original topic; I decided to make my own thread that will hopefully end up helping me to answer this question.

    I am an INTP (Ti-Ne-Si-Fe) and even though my Ne is a secondary function I believe that I have trouble utilizing it and using it in a constructive manner. My question is how do I go about doing that? Any input would be appreciated; thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsuko Souma View Post
    I posted this question in a different thread but since the question seemed to have stemmed off the original topic; I decided to make my own thread that will hopefully end up helping me to answer this question.

    I am an INTP (Ti-Ne-Si-Fe) and even though my Ne is a secondary function I believe that I have trouble utilizing it and using it in a constructive manner. My question is how do I go about doing that? Any input would be appreciated; thanks.
    Check out this thread on exercising different cognitive functions, it show give you an idea how you can develop your Ne. It appears that you are in a Ti<Si loop...

    http://www.personalitynation.com/jun...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsuko Souma View Post
    I believe that I have trouble utilizing it and using it in a constructive manner. My question is how do I go about doing that? Any input would be appreciated; thanks.
    Ehh, Ne is pretty much chaos. I don't see how one can utilize it constructively.

    You have an idea and *poppoppoppop* go all the angles and relative ideas into your mind. I don't think it is something you can focus specifically.

    Maybe it's just that it comes natural to me though. But are you really sure you don't use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Ehh, Ne is pretty much chaos. I don't see how one can utilize it constructively.

    You have an idea and *poppoppoppop* go all the angles and relative ideas into your mind. I don't think it is something you can focus specifically.

    Maybe it's just that it comes natural to me though. But are you really sure you don't use it?
    Its not that I don't use it per say. I don't doubt the fact that Ne is a secondary function for me. I just wish I could learn how to use it in a more constructive manner.

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    You don't use Ne by thinking about it, as counter-intuitive as it may seem. Ne works on it's own when you get new data/objects from the world, by noticing patterns and making associations to related concepts/systems/ideas/objects previously experienced/or noticed. When you find your mind doing this side-tracking thing [like going on unrelated tangents during a lecture] that's Ne at work.

    If you want to practice this exercise, as a Ti-dom, you'll need to resist filtering/hindering Ne down by not rushing to judging it's output [often wild ideas], the more you allow it to flow - allowing yourself to entertain silly ideas for example, is a good exercise, the more you can grasp the concept so you can try to direct it at will.
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    Well, it helps if it's about subjects that you're interested in. I find that if I think about something I really enjoy thinking about, my Ne gets supercharged. When it's about a subject I don't care much for however, it doesn't tend to deliver as well.

    But yeah, like @phobik said, it's something that basicly just happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    You don't use Ne by thinking about it, as counter-intuitive as it may seem. Ne works on it's own when you get new data/objects from the world, by noticing patterns and making associations to related concepts/systems/ideas/objects previously experienced/or noticed. When you find your mind doing this side-tracking thing [like going on unrelated tangents during a lecture] that's Ne at work.
    Are you implying that there is no way if you will to utilize it; that Ne just "happens?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsuko Souma View Post
    Are you implying that there is no way if you will to utilize it; that Ne just "happens?"
    Hmm, yeah, I think trying to force-focus it is counterproductive. You can let it run for longer times by juggling an idea in your head for a longer time. But concentration does not seem to improve it's ability for me. In fact, my Ne seems to work best when I'm getting a bit sleep deprived. Or maybe that's because I won't be as good at using my Ti to filter out the unNeccesaries, resulting in my Ne to surface more visibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsuko Souma View Post
    Are you implying that there is no way if you will to utilize it; that Ne just "happens?"
    Not until you grasp how it works yourself. You can just be given pointers of what it does so you can recognize it working and later try to feed whichever process you've noticed within yourself.
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