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    I'm studying cognitive functions, and I have several of them down completely, including Fi. Ask me about it, and let's learn more together.

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    1. What are emotions like for an Fi user? Are they complex? Why can't you put them into words?
    2. Where do your moral values come from?
    3. What does it feel like when you break a moral value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    1. What are emotions like for an Fi user? Are they complex? Why can't you put them into words?
    I personally prefer Te to Fi, so for me it's pretty different. These are my personal observations of Fi users. As Jung did, I will refer to the strong Fi user as a female. His observation was that the introverted feeling type (IxFP) is more common in females.

    Feelings are concealed, and with reason. Fi instinctively connects values with feelings. So what happens is, if you hurt an Fi user's feelings, she may feel personally attacked. Hurt feelings feel the same as a physical, bodily attack, regardless of your intent, and depending on levels of development and health, you may face a fiery retaliation. Since the values associated with Fi are subjective, and very personal, they can be very difficult to predict. In a sense, mishandling an Fi user who you're not very close to can be a lot like juggling active grenades, because you won't know where the sensitive spots are.

    Another thing that makes it hard for strong Fi users to put these into words is that they're directed inwards. Since they don't depend on the outside world or broad standards for definition, they are not verbalized or shared very often... since she understands them herself in personal inner non-verbal way, there is little actual analysis of the values... they are simply powerful and present.

    2. Where do your moral values come from?
    I have observed that the source of these is personal experience. When the Fi user is very young, positive and negative experiences imprint very strongly, and values form around these. Looking at these experiences and the resulting values objectively as an adult, the Fi user may find that they don't fit perfectly with their grown world-view, but they imprint so deeply, that there is a clear disconnect between what is understood about the difference and what is personally absorbed and applied.

    3. What does it feel like when you break a moral value?
    It sticks, and hard. Making such a mistake becomes very difficult to let go of, for years later. Something that, when shared, may seem like a non-issue for everyone else, can be something the strong Fi user obsesses about for years. I experience this too, even with tertiary Fi. Things I've done years ago, that I'm embarrassed about, will come back and haunt me.

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    What are emotions like for an Fi user? Are they complex? Why can't you put them into words?
    as an INFJ my emotions are very complex and sometimes contradictory and unknown to myself...

    2. Where do your moral values come from?
    My own code of ethic and morality PLUS the influence of significant strong figures in my childhood ( my aunt and grand father).

    3. What does it feel like when you break a moral value?
    It feels as if i am betraying myself.. Feeling like a failure..It hurts badly..

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    Something I posted on another forum, a piece of advice for growing Fi doms:

    Your dominant function, by default, intimately ties your personal value to the way others treat you. If you can't grow to genuinely personalize that there is a space between the way others treat you and what you're worth, you'll find yourself worthless in a world filled with monsters who must be destroyed, instead of wonderful in a world of genuinely decent people who don't share your values and don't understand that they're hurting your feelings.
    http://personalitycafe.com/myers-bri...ml#post2588610

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    Do you ever have any sort of conflict with a Fe user, and just know you are right based on your feelings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minutegovt View Post
    Do you ever have any sort of conflict with a Fe user, and just know you are right based on your feelings?
    http://personalitycafe.com/infj-foru...ml#post2400947

    I think that Fi can seem inconsiderate and selfish from the perspective of an Fe user, just as Fe can seem inauthentic from the perspective of an Fi user. Fi is concerned with fairness and consistency of values, while Fe concerns itself more with making sure there is harmony between people. Most societies will traditionally value Fe over Fi, because Fi is more likely to rock the boat, and perhaps not do it in a delicate way, when something seems to be amiss.
    The stronger a person's use of Fi, the more likely they are to take issue with someone who is a strong user of Fe. Wanting to get along with everyone would feel wrong to an Fi user, because many people out there have values that conflict with the Fi user's. Further, the Fi user can feel "tainted" by interaction with those who strongly conflict with their values. So when the Fe user wants to get along with people the Fi user can't stand, there's a feeling of conflictedness there: "How can this person I like be nice to/be friends with this person?"

    As someone who prefers Te over Fi, I'm very capable of interacting with people I don't much care for, particularly for the sake of duty. Stronger Fi would make this harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Something I posted on another forum, a piece of advice for growing Fi doms:

    Your dominant function, by default, intimately ties your personal value to the way others treat you. If you can't grow to genuinely personalize that there is a space between the way others treat you and what you're worth, you'll find yourself worthless in a world filled with monsters who must be destroyed, instead of wonderful in a world of genuinely decent people who don't share your values and don't understand that they're hurting your feelings.
    I wish there were a "Thank" button for this.

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    Very well said mister.

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