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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often
    b) not often, but more so in writing

    2) I empathize with people by
    a) taking on their feelings as my own
    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past

    3) my emotions show a lot on my face
    a) YES!
    b) not usually

    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people
    b) no

    5) I place higher priority in
    a) unity, team work, external harmony
    b) self expression, internal harmony

    6) my feelings come from
    a) my heart
    b) my gut

    7) I care more about
    a) how a decision will effect people's feelings and well being
    b) the principle of the matter.

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected
    b) no, though I tend to gravitate toward places with a similar vibe to how I already feel
    c) I have never been able to answer this chicken-and-egg question -- feelings show up and bewilder me! How do you Feelers narrow it down like that?!

    9) my beliefs come more from
    a) how I was raised, community values, how things effect people
    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"
    c) Both -- answer A sounds more SJ than Fe to me

    more A's: Fe
    more B's: Fi

    PS: please feel free to point out if you believe one of the questions is biased or stereotyped.

    EDIT: I took out number 3 because it sucked and renumbered them
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    1) B
    2) B
    3) Unsure
    4) I would wear my pants, if that is the kind of thing this question suggests.
    5) B
    6) B
    7) B
    8) A
    9) Tie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often
    b) not often, but more so in writing
    b) for sure, but I thought that was because I was an introvert.

    2) I empathize with people by
    a) taking on their feelings as my own
    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past
    I'm... really not sure. I think I do a) but I'm not sure.
    3) my emotions show a lot on my face
    a) YES!
    b) not usually
    b), not usually. Sometimes, if I'm very comfortable with the person and the emotion I want to express.
    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people
    b) no
    b)... I'm very awkward most of the time.

    5) I place higher priority in
    a) unity, team work, external harmony
    b) self expression, internal harmony
    b) I think. I don't see why one should be more important than the other, but I guess I don't do much to foster unity. I prefer to do what feels right to me personally...

    6) my feelings come from
    a) my heart
    b) my gut
    I guess I see where this question is coming from, and I can see how both could be true. Like... heart beats faster when infatuated or anxious, getting butterflies in stomach or an ill feeling... I think the gut is more intense. So b)?

    7) I care more about
    a) how a decision will effect people's feelings and well being
    b) the principle of the matter.
    Um... both? But I think I'm very principled... to me, stepping over a line signifies an attitude which must be altered. Do not cross line. But, rationally a) sounds like the better option... I mean, what is the point of adhering to a principle if it isn't actually best for everyone to do so?

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected
    b) no, though I tend to gravitate toward places with a similar vibe to how I already feel
    Not too sure... I think my emotional state is largely independent of what is going on externally. But different situations elicit predictable responses... idk

    9) my beliefs come more from
    a) how I was raised, community values, how things effect people
    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"
    I'm not sure how I would know? I mean, my beliefs seem to just be who I am... but who I am comes from how I was raised, what I have experienced... this sounds like nature vs nurture. Interesting that this would be how things are differentiated, and definitely something I have thought before. But I don't feel that I am at the level to differentiate this. Maybe if I reflect more.

    more A's: Fe
    more B's: Fi
    More b), though unsure on a lot.

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    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often
    b) not often, but more so in writing

    2) I empathize with people by
    a) taking on their feelings as my own
    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past

    3) my emotions show a lot on my face
    a) YES!
    b) not usually

    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people
    b) no

    5) I place higher priority in
    a) unity, team work, external harmony
    b) self expression, internal harmony
    between a and b, but b if I have to choose

    6) my feelings come from
    a) my heart
    b) my gut

    7) I care more about
    a) how a decision will effect people's feelings and well being
    b) the principle of the matter.

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected
    b) no, though I tend to gravitate toward places with a similar vibe to how I already feel

    9) my beliefs come more from
    a) how I was raised, community values, how things effect people
    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often
    b) not often, but more so in writing

    2) I empathize with people by
    a) taking on their feelings as my own
    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past

    3) my emotions show a lot on my face
    a) YES!
    b) not usually

    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people
    b) no

    5) I place higher priority in
    a) unity, team work, external harmony
    b) self expression, internal harmony

    6) my feelings come from
    a) my heart
    b) my gut

    7) I care more about
    a) how a decision will effect people's feelings and well being
    b) the principle of the matter.

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected
    b) no, though I tend to gravitate toward places with a similar vibe to how I already feel

    9) my beliefs come more from
    a) how I was raised, community values, how things effect people
    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"

    more A's: Fe
    more B's: Fi

    PS: please feel free to point out if you believe one of the questions is biased or stereotyped.

    EDIT: I took out number 3 because it sucked and renumbered them
    1. Something seems wrong with this though the idea is in the right direction, but can't place what it is as of this moment.

    2. That's a fairly good distinction.

    3. Works with Fe ego types, not so much Ti ego. I think a fairer comparison would be something like, I tend to read people's feelings based on how they express themselves or along those lines.

    4. Feels unrelated. Should perhaps be more, I understand how to mirror people's feelings/expressions in order to maintain social harmony or the like.

    5. Sounds introversion/extroversion delineated, which may work in theory but I don't think it works so well in practice since Fi types can for example value teamwork or social harmony or be conflict-avoidant etc. Would be better to focus on emotional expression or atmospheres.

    6. Nonsensical question. I think it would be better to say, do feelings come from a place within ourselves or are they a part of the environment?

    7. Seems more T/F than Fe-Fi. Feelers in general care about how their decisions will affect the people involved whereas thinkers care about the logical outcomes/principles.

    8. Right, but not quite right. More as in, my feelings can be felt or exist without inference or relationship of the feelings of others.

    9. I think this isn't very good either. More as in, how do you judge good/bad? Based on the overall consensus or based on what you personally value?

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    i got 4 b's and 5's a so i dunno

    though for 1-2 i was right in the middle
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often
    b) not often, but more so in writing

    Honestly, I am generally not even aware that I have feelings until I put them down in private writing. I really do not like to be seen as an emotional person in real life, because you look weak, but they do sort of crawl up on me especially if I get to discussing something I don't really agree with. But then usually I am just sputtering away while the other person just talks over me.

    2) I empathize with people by
    a) taking on their feelings as my own
    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past

    Hm, I don't really know if I can answer this at all. I generally have a sort of hard time empathising at all. Maybe more situational, as it is more of a why are you doing this to yourself sort of thing, but I don't really know. It is difficult, because I generally think about what the reasons are for them being in that situation, how they might be feeling, how it affects me, and what the affects are on everyone who is dealing with them. I do not really have much experience to draw upon, and pity just seems so wrong in and of itself. If I were to pity someone it would be accepting the situation as absolute, and I do not like to do that.

    3) my emotions show a lot on my face
    a) YES!
    b) not usually

    This depends as well. I do not generally intentionally show emotion on my face, but I do get questioned often by people whether I am angry, sad, hate them, ect. My face sort of stays an impassive frown, and it takes a ton of effort to force smiles or keep up with whatever is going on around me, so I generally don't. People should not be so fixated on what others are doing, but I suppose it provides them with a sort of sense of comfort to get what they believe as a known reaction out of someone else. Women especially are forced to act the role of the encouraging admirorer, to be force to be submissive and put someone on a pedestal of entitlement is not going to happen. I already ranted about this on another thread though, so I will stop. It is more insincere and does less favors overall anyway.

    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people
    b) no

    Again, can't really answer. I can put up a decently convincing front with people if I am in the mood. It takes quite a bit of time, usually music, reading, whatever to get me to a place where I can comfortably come close to matching whatever is going on around me. It is touchy. I can go into an interview, party, group, and if I am in a bad mood its pretty much a lost cause.

    5) I place higher priority in
    a) unity, team work, external harmony
    b) self expression, internal harmony

    Again both. I really cannot choose. I generally do not express myself, at least not externally. I like to read, I like to write, and I like to listen to music, but beyond that nothing. Teamwork is fine as long as I do not have to really be completely involved in the team. I do not mind seeing it work together, but I would prefer generally to do things completely on my own.

    6) my feelings come from
    a) my heart
    b) my gut

    Huh? Um, I suppose my gut. When I do experience my feelings it is almost like there is something rumbling, sparks are shot off in different directions, and if I do not do what they tell me to do I will explode. If someone is talking about someone else, and really not being fair at all, I usually cannot deal. If everyone is stealing, and they tell me to do it, it is like I am being nailed to the ground, and I won't . It feels gross to go against my gut, gross and wrong, and I generally cannot do it. If I feel something I did was wrong, I generally will not have any solid thoughts about the wrongness, but a sort of general feeling that I am a horrible human being and I usually try to indirectly correct it first, becuz I do not like apologizing. Ill try to dance around it. Then direct, because otherwise...

    7) I care more about
    a) how a decision will effect people's feelings and well being
    b) the principle of the matter.

    This is a hard test. To the few people that I actually care about deeply, I would probably place them above any principle. Although I suppose if it came down to it, I would question why there is that choice in the first place. If they were forcing me to go against my principles for them, well that is a different story.

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected
    b) no, though I tend to gravitate toward places with a similar vibe to how I already feel

    This is generally irritating though

    9) my beliefs come more from
    a) how I was raised, community values, how things effect people
    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"

    Mmm, the name stubborn rings a bell here. Get called it often, not as much anymore, but even though I don't really see myself as stubborn, (maybe) apparently people very close to me do. It is hard to move my mind, and while maybe I will do what I am told, sometimes, it is generally with very little enthusiasm. Though usually I won't at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    1) my feelings are easy to describe in words (conversationally, not in writing)
    a) often


    2) I empathize with people by

    b) thinking about how I would feel in that situation or drawing from experience of how I've felt in that situation in the past

    3) my emotions show a lot on my face

    b) not usually

    4) I am good at tailoring my behaviors and demeanor to various social situations
    a) yes, unless I am with a really mean spirited group of people

    5) I place higher priority in

    b) self expression, internal harmony

    6) my feelings come from

    b) my gut

    7) I care more about

    b) the principle of the matter.

    8) the external world has a strong impact on my feelings
    a) yes. I am adaptable, but also easily effected


    9) my beliefs come more from

    b) myself. even from a young age, I've always had strong views that sometimes differed from what I was taught. I can't really explain it, they were just "there"

    more A's: Fe
    more B's: Fi

    PS: please feel free to point out if you believe one of the questions is biased or stereotyped.

    EDIT: I took out number 3 because it sucked and renumbered them
    Looks like I got more bz

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    #5 is the only one that seems to stick out as Fi vs Fe. The others seem a little more variant based on the person.
    Yet I know, if I stepped aside
    Released the controls, you would open my eyes
    That somehow, all of this mess
    Is just my attempt to know the worth of my life
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    Quote Originally Posted by themightyfetus View Post
    #5 is the only one that seems to stick out as Fi vs Fe. The others seem a little more variant based on the person.
    Actually, no. People think seeking social harmony is Fe as in, not sticking up for one's beliefs, being conflict-avoidant, but that's not what Fe is about. Fe is more about harmonious atmospheres. An Fi type can value harmony just as much as an Fe type can.

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